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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013

      Dear #scala I wrote scala.Either in 2008. I wrote scalaz.\/ in 2013. Please stop using scala.Either. There are reasons.

      2 replies 16 retweets 9 likes
    2. Bill Venners‏ @bvenners 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego And I wrote org.scalautils.Or in 2013, to show we can have both good types *and* good names in #scala http://www.scalautils.org/user_guide/OrAndEvery …

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @bvenners

      @bvenners Identifier name reasoning is morally obnoxious and I will not be a part of it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7810909/media/doc/parametricity.pdf …

      2 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    4. Bill Venners‏ @bvenners 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego How about identifier name *remembering*? Can't "relevant" names help people remember meaning once they understand the types?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @bvenners

      @bvenners Yes and \/ is quite well established to denote logical disjunction.

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    6. Bill Venners‏ @bvenners 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego That's true about \/, maybe not so much about \/-, -\/, <<?, :?>>, |||, +++, and @\?/. Hard for users to remember all of them.

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    7. Michael Pilquist‏ @mpilquist 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @bvenners

      @bvenners @dibblego Anecdotally, \/, \/-, and -\/ are all well understood by a team I work with of 20+. Some of those others, not so much.

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    8. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @mpilquist

      @mpilquist @bvenners ||| is established unlike "orElse" which has ambiguous meaning in scala. The naming obsession is way out of control.

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    9. Michael Pilquist‏ @mpilquist 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @bvenners Of the ones Bill listed, ||| is probably next most obvious. I agree with naming obsession in general though. Witness \@/

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013
      Replying to @mpilquist

      @mpilquist @bvenners you'll also notice that there is no obsession with calling it "add" and not + again due to familiarity.

      7:38 PM - 30 Dec 2013
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        1. Bill Venners‏ @bvenners 30 Dec 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @mpilquist We agree on that point, Tony. I used the exact same example of + and add here (4 minutes):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqh_QFFzIlI&t=21m12s …

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Dec 2013
          Replying to @bvenners

          @bvenners @mpilquist appeasing "familiarity" does not help learning. In fact, in this instance, it is a major hindrance.

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