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    1. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @jankrems @BRMatt auto-flattening makes result M[String] but I expected M[M[String]] (I'm writing generic code; don't know what M is)

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    2. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @puffnfresh

      @puffnfresh As I said: on that abstraction level I agree. But practical example where specifically auto-flatMap of promises fails..?

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    3. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @jankrems x.map(makeRequest) // my other function expects M[Promise[String]] but get Promise[String] - breaks.

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    4. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @puffnfresh

      @puffnfresh I was talking about specifically flatMap of promise chains. When using .then - not a theoretical .map

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    5. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @puffnfresh So my question would be: could there be any function that expects Promise[Promise[T]] for good reasons?

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    6. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @jankrems @puffnfresh without abstraction, even the slightest, there is no longer any point to the API. It's entirely rubbish.

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    7. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @puffnfresh Well, imho an abstraction for its own sake without practical value is rubbish. PLs are tools in the end.

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    8. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @dibblego @puffnfresh I'm not saying that an additional generic .map/.flatMap wouldn't be potentially valuable.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @jankrems @puffnfresh it's not generic. It's equivocal, unprincipled, overly specialised and therefore, just generally useless.

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    10. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @puffnfresh Well, thing is: I used it and I used map/flatMap. "Boy, I sure wish it would NOT flatten those promises!" - never

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Dec 2013
      Replying to @jankrems

      @jankrems @puffnfresh Pretending there is no difference (Promises/A+) demonstrates the magnitude of departure from real programming imo.

      1:22 PM - 4 Dec 2013
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        1. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @puffnfresh "Real programming" is solving problems. I'm not disputing an academic difference but "does it help solve problems"

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        2. Jan @ Home‏ @jankrems 4 Dec 2013
          Replying to @jankrems

          @dibblego @puffnfresh We are talking about a language without static types so many patterns that rely on strong types defy the nature of it.

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