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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dcsobral s/out/it sorry

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    2. Dave Griffith‏ @dave_griffith 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @dcsobral point(x).get = x, always. The simplest possible distribution. Don't see how Distribution[X] can be Identity[X], though

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    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dave_griffith

      @dave_griffith @dcsobral I might be missing it. case class Distribution[A](a: get). Where is the difference?

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    4. Dave Griffith‏ @dave_griffith 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @dcsobral Many distributions not of that form. size(Distribution[X]) >> size(X). More similar to Hom[X] than Identity[X]

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    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dave_griffith

      @dave_griffith @dcsobral These are operations on Distribution. The structure is the same right?

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    6. Dave Griffith‏ @dave_griffith 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @dcsobral Except "get" is in general nondeterministic, and thus should really be modeled differently (which break comonad).

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
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      @dave_griffith @dcsobral Which laws break? https://github.com/tonymorris/probability-monad/blob/master/src/main/scala/probability-monad/Distribution.scala#L441 …

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    8. Daniel Capo Sobral‏ @dcsobral 27 Aug 2013
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      @dibblego @dave_griffith I don't think that pure makes sense.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @dcsobral

      @dcsobral @dave_griffith Does it obey the necessary laws?

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    10. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 27 Aug 2013
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      @dibblego @dave_griffith @dcsobral yes, parametricity says so. Examples implement get using side-effects, so breaks monad laws.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
      Replying to @puffnfresh

      @puffnfresh @dave_griffith @dcsobral I see that unsafe code. It could simply be done neater. It does not affect the original question.

      6:42 PM - 27 Aug 2013
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        1. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 27 Aug 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @dave_griffith @dcsobral val u = uniform.flatMap(always); println(uniform.get); println(u.get); // not the same!

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Aug 2013
          Replying to @puffnfresh

          @puffnfresh @dave_griffith @dcsobral Yeah so fix uniform right? Distribution still sits there, "nyanya I am a monad and a comonad."

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