Tony Morris

@dibblego @rickasaurus I don't understand what notion of safety is being discussed. Scala has instance incoherency issues. Unscalable.

@cartazio @rickasaurus …and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

@dibblego @cartazio I think the biggest problem with haskell safety is choice of defaults, you need to know too much

@rickasaurus @cartazio Scala will never even come close to providing the safety of Haskell. This is widely accepted among those who use both

@dibblego @cartazio I agree, for an expert. But defaults matter for intermediate level programmers.

@rickasaurus @cartazio Here is a challenge. Take two equal beginners and the best teacher on the planet. Give me haskell and one beginner.

@dibblego @cartazio I would say a better test is you take two mediocre teachers on busy teams and bring a new person in mid project

@rickasaurus @cartazio Sure, we have done this too and the outcome is wildly unexpected (until you shift position like we have done).