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    1. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @puffnfresh

      @puffnfresh scala monads are missing the point too :(

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dysmemic

      @pelotom @puffnfresh This is one of the few GOOD things about scala.

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    3. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @pelotom huh? It's a good thing to rely on map instead of point?

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    4. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @puffnfresh

      @puffnfresh @pelotom Eschew point/identity. The Semigroupoid Way of Life.

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    5. Kris Nuttycombe‏ @nuttycom 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @puffnfresh @pelotom How can one can eschew point entirely? Have to get into the context somewhere.

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    6. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @nuttycom

      @nuttycom @dibblego @puffnfresh Exactly. If I am building a monadic API I *need* Point, and in Scala there's no standard Point

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    7. Kris Nuttycombe‏ @nuttycom 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dysmemic

      @pelotom @dibblego @puffnfresh Monad as map + flatten instead of point + flatMap; lifting may indicate you're doing something wrong?

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    8. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @nuttycom

      @nuttycom @dibblego Point is part of the definition of Monad. There are purely monadic functions that you can't write without it.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dysmemic

      @pelotom @nuttycom The point is that point is nowhere near as useful as is often (and this case) made out. It is also in the way a lot.

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    10. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dibblego

      @dibblego @nuttycom That may be, but sometimes it is necessary.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
      Replying to @dysmemic

      @pelotom @nuttycom If you would just change "sometimes" to "rarely" and then also accept how much it also gets in the way…

      4:04 PM - 12 Apr 2013
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        1. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @nuttycom We're fiddling over fuzzy adjectives now ;)

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
          Replying to @dysmemic

          @pelotom @nuttycom I am a little precious about my semigroupoid cult.

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        1. rare earth elemental  🐉 @25040‏ @dysmemic 12 Apr 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @nuttycom As it happens I'm writing a lib which could depend on nothing but the stdlib if it had Point, but as is I'll need scalaz

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 12 Apr 2013
          Replying to @dysmemic

          @pelotom @nuttycom Well now you have me curious -- sounds like a problem.

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        1. Eyal Lotem  🏴‏ @EyalL 12 Apr 2013
          Replying to @dibblego

          @dibblego @pelotom @nuttycom how do you implement e.g sequence for monads without point/return?

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 13 Apr 2013
          Replying to @EyalL

          @EyalL @pelotom @nuttycom You don't, you implement sequence1 http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/semigroupoids/latest/doc/html/Data-Semigroup-Traversable.html …

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