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    1. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      do you find that co-workers or other prospective mentees respond well, and lend you their trust, when the first things you say to them about their current work is so condescending and dismissive as "completely wrong", "not even elementary", and "would fail undergrad"?

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      Yes; they become curious as to why and find it challenging. I'm attempting to give you a scope of your misunderstanding. It's not "just a little bit" or "just pedantry." Not everyone is so defensive or dismissive. Consider, perhaps this is hindering your progress in learning.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      except I'm quite certain I know way more about the topic than you are giving me credit for. Not nearly as much as you, but a lot more than the zero grade you're giving me.

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    4. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @dibblego and

      I also have people who absolutely know FP and are both credible and also respect me and treat me like not a lesser. Those people have taught me a lot. Your flawed assessment of me doesn't hold much weight.

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    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      Can you try not to take this personally? You don't understand a thing. What happens next?

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    6. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      I am not a person for whom "you don't understand a thing" is a welcoming opening line in an offer for help. I am glad you have found enough people who appreciate that approach. but that's not universal, or I suspect even the majority.

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      Right, but you actually don't understand it. Do you see a correlation yet? I don't understand lots of things, and I am happy to yell hundreds of them out my window right now, if only to get you over this hurdle.

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    8. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      I understand more than enough of it to be providing value to my audience, to be accomplishing my goals, and to provide useful paths to learn more. I also have people guiding and helping me. I understand you discount all that.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      How are you assessing that it is helping your audience? If I told you that "monads are fluffy dogs", then I have achieved points 1 and 2, right? Does that also mean I am helping?pic.twitter.com/9UkGM3ZNSz

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    10. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      Perhaps the question you might have led with, instead of all the derision, would be, "what are you trying to accomplish?" and an important follow-up might have been "what have you already learned and accomplished?" That's where I would have started. Not "you know nothing".

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
      Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

      Please also note: you are now advising me on "how to teach." Consider that for a moment, and what a reasonable assessment of this advice might be. By the way, when are we gearing up to actually learn monads?

      4:11 PM - 15 Jul 2020
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        2. getify‏ @getify 15 Jul 2020
          Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @bdharrington

          One thing I am a recognized expert at is teaching (esp technical topics)... so having an opinion on it is not unreasonable. But all I noted is, it's how I would have started. You can take that as critique or not, as you will.

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2020
          Replying to @getify @puffnfresh @bdharrington

          I have and I will, but let's be clear on one thing: you have never taught a single person an understanding of monads. You have the power and intelligence to change that right now.

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