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    1. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 27 Mar 2019

      @dibblego how does logging work in Haskell apps, correlation IDs or something else?

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @d_broadbridge

      There are two kinds of logging and they have distinct answers: * reporting program states to users * unexpected program outcome, what was the program's previous state?

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    3. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @dibblego

      Not to sure what you mean by reporting problem states to users, is that API users? Also what do you mean by program state, how much information does that include?

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    4. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @d_broadbridge

      The first was originally demonstrated in a Scala library called argonaut, which is providing program context ("logging") to API users, all the way to end users. By program state, I mean, "the program crashed, where was it up to?"

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    5. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @dibblego

      Sorry Argonaut looks like a json parsing library and not a logging library?

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    6. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @d_broadbridge

      Correct it is, but it "logs" traversal of the zipper in a data structure. I could explain… not Twitter.

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    7. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @dibblego

      Thanks :) I am very interested in alternatives to the norm of ramming IDs everywhere.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 27 Mar 2019
      Replying to @d_broadbridge

      I think it's most important to distinguish, "reporting program condition (e.g. errors) to users" and "oh no the program crashed, why?" Because they are handled completely differently.

      11:18 PM - 27 Mar 2019
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        1. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 27 Mar 2019
          Replying to @dibblego

          I think I am more concerned with figuring out with why my program crashed first, although I would still be interested in how to handle the end user messages as well.

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        1. Dylan Broadbridge‏ @d_broadbridge 28 Mar 2019
          Replying to @dibblego

          Where can I learn more on finding out why a program crashed in a functional way?

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 28 Mar 2019
          Replying to @d_broadbridge

          Have you done the Data61 introductory fp-course?

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