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    1. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      More than a couple of people have asked me to talk about what it's like to program in Haskell. As a first attempt, here's a little window into the experience via something incredibly banal, but IMO hugely motivating.

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    2. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      I have some code that uses `Maybe` values heavily (for, ahem, good reasons). At the end of a particular function, I need to tie all of them off into just the few that are relevant given the arguments. Effectively, the equivalent of how `||` is used in JS, e.g. `a || b || c`, etc

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    3. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      Ironically, while I can get by w/ some not-easy stuff (e.g. various type-level mechanisms), I don't know common libraries particularly well. So given the above need, I wrote this a few weeks ago: «a `orElse` b `orElse` c» will evaluate to the first `Just` value among a, b, and cpic.twitter.com/NOTsy0L0PI

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    4. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      Now that I have tests settled for this particular module, I thought I'd go see what function in the stdlib might exist that is equivalent to my `orElse`. So, I punched its type signature into hoogle: Maybe a -> Maybe a -> Maybe a

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    5. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      Hoogle, an index of the ~standard libraries (and which you can run locally using an index of the libs used in *your* project 😮), popped back a set of results, the second of which is exactly equivalent to my `orElse`: <|>, defined in Control.Applicative: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.12.0.0/docs/Control-Applicative.html#v:-60--124--62- …

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    6. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      This kind of thing cannot be done without things that are super-important in the haskell world, e.g.: * sufficient static analysis discipline, obviously aided greatly by surfacing the type system * adequate community enthusiasm for tools to augment/replace flawed human faculties

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    7. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 29 Nov 2018

      Fun addendum that illustrates now noob I still am: I've actually used <|> a bunch because of parsec, but until now erroneously thought it was parsec-specific (thanks to the similarity to BNF's pipe). it's super-obvious now that <|> is big-F Fundamental

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Nov 2018
      Replying to @cemerick

      Used it with Maybe yet? Here's a puzzle: used it with Either? Why not?

      4:06 AM - 30 Nov 2018
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        2. Chas (pvp gank paladin) Emerick‏ @cemerick 30 Nov 2018
          Replying to @dibblego

          Well, the whole story was about my discovering <|> as a replacement for my own Maybe-only impl I haven't used it with Either, but surely will after last night

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 30 Nov 2018
          Replying to @cemerick

          There is no Alternative for Either because there is no empty. Have a look at Data.Functor.Alt.

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