so i wasnt going to say anything about these tweets until i saw that he said that the Rust project doesn't know "about those monad thingies"
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its not only complete jerks like John de Goebbels: the functional programming community has a problem with suggesting the only reason someone wouldn't use their techniques is ignorance
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No matter how well they can be analogized to a math formalism, your abstractions were *not* handed down to you from on high by the almighty
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The Rust community contains a vast knowledge of PL theory, including deep and technical understandings of type theory and pure functional programming
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It makes me very angry when the knowledge of our community is dismissed from a place of complete ignorance about the technical challenges we are responding to
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You don't understand the practical purpose of monads and now you are angry. Sucks to be you, doubly so.
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Replying to @dibblego @withoutboats
If all you have is a Monad, everything begins to look like a >>=. We do understand. Many Rustaceans also have FP knowledge. Just because something works in one language does not mean it will in another. The thread they linked contained a very thorough explanation as to why.
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Boats has a very deep technical understanding of this stuff. To be dismissive of this as if people haven't spent the time to think this over, as if no thought process has gone into it, and discount years worth of technical and design work is saddening.
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Replying to @mgattozzi @withoutboats
You don't understand the practical purpose of monads and now you are angry. and now you're sad? It's pretty obvious from reading the weirdly defensive justification that there is not a good understanding. It's OK to not understand a thing.
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Replying to @dibblego @withoutboats
Lmao I've worked using Haskell professionally for 3 years and used Rust for 3 years. I understand why we can't. Not gonna bother arguing with you further.
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and I've been using Haskell professionally for 15 years, so what? It's OK to not understand some things, even if "used Haskell for years." I've seen it before. Today, I will not understand a thing. It's not a big deal. As to the weirdly defensive justification, it's bollocks.
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Replying to @dibblego @mgattozzi
hey bud just here to tell you that unless you make a big change in your life you will never fill that hole you feel inside you and you will never be happy
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Replying to @withoutboats @mgattozzi
Woah, what big change might you suggest?
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