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    1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      It definitely does not make anything clear at all.

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    2. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      It at least makes it easier to evaluate the behavior of members of the community, since there is a set of guidelines to evaluate against. Of course it should only be used if disputes can’t be resolved more amicably

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    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      But it really really really doesn't. The people who violate the CoC the most, are almost always the same people who wrote it. It's similar to some people who need a religious book to tell them not to kill people, but then they do it anyway.

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    4. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Great analogy!

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    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      This really is my team's Code of Conduct. https://gist.github.com/tonymorris/90522094bb964fd0d7bb42acd43ff4fb … as in, we strive to take it as seriously as is practical.

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    6. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      There are certainly some useful parts of that! I especially like the use of precise times. However, there are some projections of personal opinions and preference that probably don’t belong in a serious coc. So my assumption is that you don’t take it that seriously.

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      No, I am dead serious. We all take it extremely seriously. I have no idea how you reached a conclusion otherwise. Because of "projections of personal opinions and preference"? What do you think the rubbish documents contain?

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    8. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      Thats fair, a coc generally contains community preferences. I was mainly referring to “Don’t use scala. Not even then.” The rest is strait forward, actionable and useful. I don’t think this is a technical position, but rather a personal preference based on passes disputes.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      It is very very very very very very very very very definitely a technical position. It is a widely held position, though if you are relatively new to Scala, you probably don't know that. I had zero contribution to that part of our CoC.

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    10. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @dibblego

      I know there are some people who hold that opinion. Mainly by people who think pure FP is the one true way. Scala doesn’t really shine for pure FP, so I can understand the reasoning for those people. From what I’ve seen, I wouldn’t say it’s a widely held opinion though.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @eliaskjordan

      No. From people who know Scala well. This division into "people who think pure FP is the one true way" is a part of the narrative that you have fallen into adopting. It doesn't exist. It's entirely a fabrication. You believe it's not widely held due to an understandable bias.

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        2. Eli Jordan‏ @eliaskjordan 10 Aug 2018
          Replying to @dibblego

          Ok, so what are the key technical points that make scala unusable in your opinion? (I’m truly interested in knowing if there is something I’m missing)

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        3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 10 Aug 2018
          Replying to @eliaskjordan

          Well, again, twitter cannot do justice to such an excellent and important question. Here is a *very generous* run down. https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1pjjy5/odersky_the_trouble_with_types_strange_loop_2013/cd3bgcu/ …

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