This discussion should not invoke cabal. It is irrelevant. The discussion, if it were to remain faithful to the original claim, is contrasting stack against not stack.
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That's. *Hilarious*.
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Replying to @TheWizardTower @dibblego and
"Stack sucks." "But why? Loads of people are way more productive with Stack than cabal." "That doesn't count because I say so."
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nobody is saying "Cabal is good for beginners and you must use it" - so no, it's really not about Cabal.
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ah gotcha ... so is the other alternative nix?
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my team uses Nix for everything so some people have used it, but no, I get beginners to just grab GHC however they want.
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sure but I guess I don’t really follow are you saying to use ghc directly or something else?
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Both Brian and I have used GHCi directly (for teaching) for over a decade, as do many other teachers.
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sure I guess I miss understood the entire conversation. I thought you were saying stack is the wrong choice for beginners projects.
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The other reason stack is unfortunate, is that before it existed, there was really excellent discussion about how to properly solve the build problem, in general, for which we all know cabal (and many others) are problematic.
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Stack just made it a political game. It also solves no meaningful problems, except "but it's not cabal!" You can tell that's its only goal because every time I write "fuck stack", someone invokes cabal. I congratulate programmers on this achievement.
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