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    1. Jonathan Fischoff‏ @jfischoff 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower @dibblego

      What do you mean by nobody succeeds? I see most new Haskellers using stack and they experience fewer issues then I saw them have with cabal. Specifically what are you seeing?

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jfischoff @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower

      This discussion should not invoke cabal. It is irrelevant. The discussion, if it were to remain faithful to the original claim, is contrasting stack against not stack.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Adam "Nomad" McCullough‏ @TheWizardTower 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @jfischoff @puffnfresh

      That's. *Hilarious*.

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    4. Adam "Nomad" McCullough‏ @TheWizardTower 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @TheWizardTower @dibblego and

      "Stack sucks." "But why? Loads of people are way more productive with Stack than cabal." "That doesn't count because I say so."

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    5. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @TheWizardTower @dibblego @jfischoff

      nobody is saying "Cabal is good for beginners and you must use it" - so no, it's really not about Cabal.

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    6. Jonathan Fischoff‏ @jfischoff 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower @dibblego

      ah gotcha ... so is the other alternative nix?

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    7. Brian McKenna‏ @puffnfresh 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jfischoff @TheWizardTower @dibblego

      my team uses Nix for everything so some people have used it, but no, I get beginners to just grab GHC however they want.

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    8. Jonathan Fischoff‏ @jfischoff 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower @dibblego

      sure but I guess I don’t really follow are you saying to use ghc directly or something else?

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jfischoff @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower

      Both Brian and I have used GHCi directly (for teaching) for over a decade, as do many other teachers.

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    10. Jonathan Fischoff‏ @jfischoff 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower

      sure I guess I miss understood the entire conversation. I thought you were saying stack is the wrong choice for beginners projects.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 26 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jfischoff @puffnfresh @TheWizardTower

      The other reason stack is unfortunate, is that before it existed, there was really excellent discussion about how to properly solve the build problem, in general, for which we all know cabal (and many others) are problematic.

      2:56 PM - 26 Jul 2018
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        1. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 26 Jul 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @jfischoff and

          Stack just made it a political game. It also solves no meaningful problems, except "but it's not cabal!" You can tell that's its only goal because every time I write "fuck stack", someone invokes cabal. I congratulate programmers on this achievement.

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