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    1. Kaboom‏ @Kaboom20264259 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @tomzalt and

      Let's suppose the Cats/Typelevel shit never had happened. Would you think the same? I think not. I get that you're angry and that some of those guys were assholes, I think there is hope for Scala, and not just as a gateway drug to Haskell

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    2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @Kaboom20264259 @tomzalt and

      Why do you think there are almost zero skilled programmers and skilled teachers using Scala? Where did they all go? Are they all angry too?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Kaboom‏ @Kaboom20264259 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @tomzalt and

      It's not like there are many skilled programmers at all, functional programming talk is pretty recent, 10 years ago the cloud did not exist and lambdas were "PhD stuff"

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @Kaboom20264259 @tomzalt and

      All the skilled programmers were around back then. Where are they now? Why aren't they using Scala? You don't even know they existed :)

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Kaboom‏ @Kaboom20264259 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @tomzalt and

      Some of them went to elixir, most of them to haskell (the famous haskellator). I don't know about anyone who went to go

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @Kaboom20264259 @tomzalt and

      Almost all the decent Scala programmers were using Haskell, before Scala, and are no longer using Scala. That's because it's a waste of fucking time.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Tomás Lázaro‏ @tomzalt 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @Kaboom20264259 and

      Why did anyone bother with Scala?

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    8. Kaboom‏ @Kaboom20264259 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @tomzalt @dibblego and

      the JVM, probably

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @Kaboom20264259 @tomzalt and

      Well, yeah, that's why we thought it had merit. 1. This is a better language than Java. 2. We should be able to help make this an even better language (for the JVM). Neither of these turned out to be true.

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    10. Tomás Lázaro‏ @tomzalt 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @Kaboom20264259 and

      What do you think of Eta?

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
      Replying to @tomzalt @Kaboom20264259 and

      Kicks arse. It is on our team's radar as a project to which we may commit resources.

      4:36 PM - 16 Jul 2018
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        1. Tomás Lázaro‏ @tomzalt 16 Jul 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @Kaboom20264259 and

          From all this conversation I gather: - Haskell is the superior language - JVM is a good conduit to get industry to adopt a language - Hopes put into Scala to get Haskell ideas into industry through JVM - Haskell on the JVM (eta) is a better choice. Do you agree?

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        2. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 16 Jul 2018
          Replying to @tomzalt @Kaboom20264259 and

          I agree. I also think it is unique that for Scala, you do not know immediately just how fucked you are. It takes time. This is unlike, say PHP or golang, where you know immediately that you're totally busted out of the gate.

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