Tony Morris

Pretty hard bashing on EPFL phd students without acknowledging all the good that has come out and not being specific about the instances when academics negatively impacted Scala. Macros and parallel collections mentioned in passing, not acknowledging current work.

-I agree on Scala problems in tooling, lack of proper IDE is the eternal problem. Current efforts not acknowledged in talk either. -Some people leaving the community were very conflictive, not mentioned in talk. -Making it look like Cats developers cannot work well with others.

- Metals is VERY green, we're nowhere near a free open-source solution - "conflictive" is an opinion, I would take @contrarivariant @dibblego @kmett over @bodil @travisbrown and @justkelly_ok (who happens to have a do not hire list for "nazis", thats sounds "conflictive" to me )

It’s a fact some departures happened because of a broader context of human interactions and not related to Scala’s technical aspects. There was no need to tag anyone into this convo to start yet another fight. That is conflictive.

Many of us stopped using Scala because it is a pile of worthless shit. Let the goobers keep it. I'll watch :)

What do you think of the advise to use Haskell instead of Scala for people like you who strongly oppose Scala?

Haskell is a vastly superior language to Scala. This has always been known. Hence, we continue to use it in production, before and after Scala. What many of us more recently discovered is that every language is superior to Scala.

Even PHP?