Tony Morris

You know, I talked with @odersky and @adriaanm and @dwijnand and others at Scala Days and honestly the future of FP in Scala has never been brighter. This current FUD is really misplaced.

it isn’t fud , it may be an incorrect perception, but when the reaction to @jdegoes keynote is reflexively dismissive, it is easily formed. You may have privileged inside info to the contrary, great! Clearly a communication problem then

- Kotlin is huge because JetBrains built tooling to make it work for Android + Google endorsement. Not mentioned in talk. - Scala lagging behind Java on new JVM features is obvious, ie. value classes will come. - Work on mitigations to ease migration to Scala 3, not mentioned.

Pretty hard bashing on EPFL phd students without acknowledging all the good that has come out and not being specific about the instances when academics negatively impacted Scala. Macros and parallel collections mentioned in passing, not acknowledging current work.

-I agree on Scala problems in tooling, lack of proper IDE is the eternal problem. Current efforts not acknowledged in talk either. -Some people leaving the community were very conflictive, not mentioned in talk. -Making it look like Cats developers cannot work well with others.

- Metals is VERY green, we're nowhere near a free open-source solution - "conflictive" is an opinion, I would take @contrarivariant @dibblego @kmett over @bodil @travisbrown and @justkelly_ok (who happens to have a do not hire list for "nazis", thats sounds "conflictive" to me )

It’s a fact some departures happened because of a broader context of human interactions and not related to Scala’s technical aspects. There was no need to tag anyone into this convo to start yet another fight. That is conflictive.