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    1. Flavin Brazir‏ @flaviusbraz 14 Jul 2018

      Fact: Scala could improve a lot without all these community silos Scalaz: just dump OO and everyone that does OO Typelevel: it’s all good, Scala 3 is god-given. Kumbaya 🎶 Lightbend: go do Haskell if you want to do FP Me: I guess it’s time to find another language to do OSS

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    2. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @flaviusbraz

      Hey Flavio, I don’t think the Lightbend guys say “go to Haskell if you want to do FP”, but rather “if you want to change the fundamentals of Scala, it’s a lost battle, invest your time in something that aligns with your ideas”.

      1 reply 3 retweets 32 likes
    3. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jvican

      The typelevel guys do FP in Scala and contribute to the core compiler and they are more than welcome. They suggest changes one by one, talk to the core developers a lot, and iterate in their design without wanting to do hopeless things like removing subtyping from the language.

      1 reply 5 retweets 34 likes
    4. Jorge Vicente Cantero‏ @jvican 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jvican

      Being frank and honest about the things that will and will not happen is a virtue. Nobody wants to waste people’s time.

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Flavin Brazir‏ @flaviusbraz 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jvican

      Thanks, Jorge. I guess I exaggerated a bit. It’s interesting that many people perceived the statements by Lightbend that way, though. Maybe the message wasn’t very clear

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    7. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @gclaramunt @jvican

      Misinterpreting outsiders is what creates silos and tribalism, and that's tribalism on tribalism. But the Scalaz tribe does think Scala must change in fundamental ways, those are the changes that Lightbend said no to, so that tribe announced doom.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @Blaisorblade @gclaramunt @jvican

      You all crack me the fuck up.

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        1. Gabriel Claramunt‏ @gclaramunt 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @Blaisorblade @jvican

          I don’t think Scala can be better than Haskell at pure FP, not sure why the drama about it

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        2. Emily Pillmore‏ @bkmlep 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @Blaisorblade and

          Once again, Scalaz has improper focus on it for calling to attention problems that Scala could potentially face in the future. Meanwhile, a leader of TL doubles down on banlists for Lambdaconf attendees: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiIlXYEWAAAJOpo.jpg:large …

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        3. Gabriel Claramunt‏ @gclaramunt 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @bkmlep @dibblego and

          There’s a lot of bad blood between people, I spoke twice at LC so I might be on some list somewhere... I’m not sure what it has to do Lightbend or moving Scala towards Haskell

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        2. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @dibblego @gclaramunt @jvican

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          "announced doom" was lazy, but I stand by the rest — I'm also implying that's not bad faith, unlike https://twitter.com/gclaramunt/status/1018501250059591681 … (which is a tribal response).

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        3. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @Blaisorblade @dibblego and

          It seems also plain to me Scalaz has tribal characters — which is unrelated to the correct opinion on the technical disagreements.

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