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    1. Jose Cardona  👌 🐶‏ @JM0x5C 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @adriaanm

      How does OO factor into "modularity and extensibility" that FP can't do? Functions compose far simpler than interfaces/class inheritance The type system doesn't help when most people do not write total functions and doing so is not enforced.

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    2. Adriaan Moors‏ @adriaanm 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JM0x5C

      Object generalizes function: multiple "input" (required) / "output" (provided) members, recursion through `this`. Subtyping simpler than existentials (e.g., heterogenous list). Don't ask "can it do it", but "can it do it as naturally"? Why not play to strengths of both paradigms?

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    3. Jose Cardona  👌 🐶‏ @JM0x5C 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @adriaanm

      Because in my extremely biased opinion, there is no strength to object orientation whatsoever that isn't solved via well supported function composition + typeclasses + algebraic data types. I do not find a benefit in mixing the two whatsoever.

      3 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    4. Jose Cardona  👌 🐶‏ @JM0x5C 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JM0x5C @adriaanm

      And before a "just go to eta or haskell" argument pops up, the former is extremely young, and the latter has far less job openings.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Adriaan Moors‏ @adriaanm 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @JM0x5C

      Then my advice is to "contribute to eta and help it grow" or "create more Haskell jobs". Both are easier than turning Scala into a Haskell. I hope we are clear on that.

      2 replies 4 retweets 41 likes
    6. Jed Wesley-Smith‏ @jedws 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @adriaanm @JM0x5C

      so, you have to be a little object-oriented to write Scala?

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    7. Arnold deVos‏ @a4dev 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jedws @adriaanm @JM0x5C

      Isn’t it a consequence of being on the JVM? More exactly, being on the JVM and using libraries w/o a foreign function interface.

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    8. Jed Wesley-Smith‏ @jedws 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @a4dev @adriaanm @JM0x5C

      not at all. have been doing pure FP in Scala for years. Only OOness used was sealed trait inheritance, abstracting an algebra of operations that may then be implemented with an ‘FFI’ into library (if necessary)

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    9. Arnold deVos‏ @a4dev 11 Jul 2018
      Replying to @jedws @adriaanm @JM0x5C

      Over the years I’ve suspected you might be doing FP :-) My point is that scala does not need an FFI to java. Another Lang with no concept of inheritance would at least have an impedance mismatch if not a full on FFI. No big deal.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 11 Jul 2018

      Farking nailed it m8.

      6:35 PM - 11 Jul 2018
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