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    1. Colin Woodbury‏ @fosskers 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @dibblego @scervre

      If: (a) the JVM is an asset, not a liability (b) importing Java libraries is a legitimate strength, not just marketing Then: (c) Eta is extremely valuable. Insert your own truth values for (a) and (b).

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    2. Santiago Cervantes‏ @scervre 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @fosskers @RyanTomczik @dibblego

      Does really make sense use Eta instead of Haskell? I mean, in Eta, Java code must be run into an specific wrapper called Java (Monad?). This obviously will complicate the interaction with legacy code so... Does Eta make sense if using Java libraries is tricky?

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    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @scervre @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      Actually, it's not tricky. It's how Java interop is done well.

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    4. Santiago Cervantes‏ @scervre 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      If you say so, I belive you 😂

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    5. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @scervre @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      If you'd like to see an example of Java interop done poorly, see Scala.

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    6. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @scervre @fosskers

      The reason it has this type of interop is Scala is a multi-paradigm language, it only makes sense to do an Eta style interop in a purely functional language. Scala's interop story is similar to F# and Clojure. So shitting on Scala for this is just trolling.

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    7. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @dibblego and

      Scala wouldn't have been half successful in terms of adoption if it was a purely FP language, but part of that success has been a gateway drug for many developers to pure FP. I almost agree with Tony that once you go full FP you should make a jump to Haskell or Eta, but..

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    8. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @dibblego and

      Shitting on Scala for not being purely functional is counter productive.

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @scervre @fosskers

      a) nobody is shitting on Scala because it is not pure FP. Stop making stuff up please. b) you are rewriting history about why Scala is popular, which is creepy. c) popular does not mean it does Java interop well. It doesn't.

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    10. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @scervre @fosskers

      Sorry that was a bit confusing, I didn't mean that it was popular because it was a gateway drug to pure FP, I meant it is good for the industry being so.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @scervre @fosskers

      It's not "a gateway drug to FP." That's just a common repeated myth. A huge number of now ex-Scala users started out with Haskell. You just don't hear about them anymore. Scala really has nothing to do with FP, given that it is not possible to take advantage of FP using Scala.

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