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    1. Colin Woodbury‏ @fosskers 22 Jun 2018
      Replying to @scervre @dibblego

      Many people could talk for days about this. One of the biggest issues for me is the lack of Referential Transparency. You can perform arbitrary effects (IO, mutating global state) whereever you want, and the language doesn't try to stop you. Exceptions, nulls, brittle compiler...

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    2. Santiago Cervantes‏ @scervre 22 Jun 2018
      Replying to @fosskers @dibblego

      Yeah, that makes sense but, using the correct libraries such as cats or similar, you can reduce that cons to almost zero. As I said, Scala is not Haskell (however Haskell also has Exceptions) but I think is still better than Python or Java.. Or JavaScript!

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    3. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 22 Jun 2018
      Replying to @scervre @fosskers

      1. cats is a copy of scalaz because of petty politicians and their gullible corporate fan club. 2. I wrote scalaz. 3. None of this works.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @scervre @fosskers

      I'd be curious what you think of the Eta Language project

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    5. Colin Woodbury‏ @fosskers 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @dibblego @scervre

      If: (a) the JVM is an asset, not a liability (b) importing Java libraries is a legitimate strength, not just marketing Then: (c) Eta is extremely valuable. Insert your own truth values for (a) and (b).

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    6. Santiago Cervantes‏ @scervre 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @fosskers @RyanTomczik @dibblego

      Does really make sense use Eta instead of Haskell? I mean, in Eta, Java code must be run into an specific wrapper called Java (Monad?). This obviously will complicate the interaction with legacy code so... Does Eta make sense if using Java libraries is tricky?

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    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @scervre @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      Actually, it's not tricky. It's how Java interop is done well.

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    8. Santiago Cervantes‏ @scervre 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      If you say so, I belive you 😂

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    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 4 Jul 2018
      Replying to @scervre @fosskers @RyanTomczik

      If you'd like to see an example of Java interop done poorly, see Scala.

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    10. Ryan Tomczik‏ @RyanTomczik 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @scervre @fosskers

      The reason it has this type of interop is Scala is a multi-paradigm language, it only makes sense to do an Eta style interop in a purely functional language. Scala's interop story is similar to F# and Clojure. So shitting on Scala for this is just trolling.

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      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 5 Jul 2018
      Replying to @RyanTomczik @scervre @fosskers

      No. Eta's interop was motivated and designed specifically because of how bad Scala is. It has nothing to do with multi-paradigm or not. Scala's interop has been known to be terrible, by many, for at least a decade. "So blah blah is just trolling." Give me a break please.

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