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    1. Scott Hanselman‏Verified account @shanselman 16 Jun 2018
      Replying to @sarahmei

      Statically typed languages are like having a spell checker AND a grammar checker up front. Dynamic languages mean I won’t know if I spelled anything wrong until I get my paper back from the teacher.

      29 replies 213 retweets 791 likes
    2. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @shanselman @sarahmei

      Unless, of course, you practice TDD. Then you know immediately because you are writing a very specific purpose spelling and grammar checker.

      18 replies 14 retweets 77 likes
    3. Jon Harrop‏ @jonharrop 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @unclebobmartin @shanselman @sarahmei

      Tests are not proofs.

      1 reply 2 retweets 12 likes
    4. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @jonharrop @shanselman @sarahmei

      Neither are types.

      5 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Sebastian Good‏ @sebastiangood 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @unclebobmartin @jonharrop and

      Um. That’s exactly what they are. Perhaps you meant to say “types are only able to prove some things about your code, and I find that less useful than others do, but I see where you’re coming from”

      1 reply 0 retweets 19 likes
    6. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @sebastiangood @jonharrop and

      The type is not the proof, it is the statement to be proven by a program. In any case, expressing all necessary behaviors as types is impractical; but as tests is trivial.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @unclebobmartin @sebastiangood and

      Further, using types appropriately, has the same practical outcome as writing infinity tests, but with zero effort and zero hindrance. Where is that trade-off exactly?

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    8. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @sebastiangood and

      No, not even close. I can completely replace static types with tests. I cannot completely replace tests with static types.

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 17 Jun 2018
      Replying to @unclebobmartin @sebastiangood and

      That's definitively not true. Want me to write the code for which you will never be able to write tests?

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    10. Uncle Bob Martin‏ @unclebobmartin 18 Jun 2018
      Replying to @dibblego @sebastiangood and

      I’ve seen lots of code for which writing tests is nearly impossible. We call that legacy code. There are also behaviors that are not practically testable. E.g. fully testing the multiply operator.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Tony Morris‏ @dibblego 18 Jun 2018
      Replying to @unclebobmartin @sebastiangood and

      You mean *side effecting code*, not legacy code.

      6:03 AM - 18 Jun 2018
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