Valid point. Hopefully we won't get to the point where people take as much pride in ignorance about CS as they currently do about math.
Hello, my name is David. I would fail to write bubble sort on a whiteboard. I look code up on the internet all the time. I don't do riddles.
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Horses for courses. Some people need to know algos deeply. Info system programmers very rarely so.
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we so desperately want (our work) to matter, so we interview for gods to feel like gods, and not what the job needs.
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I'm amazed that expecting an absolute _minimum_ of CS knowledge from a programmer is now considered elitist. Bubble sort!!
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The problem is asking the person to write Bubble sort and NOT asking lots of other relevant questions IMO.
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I love the thought here, but what is the solution to hiring competent programmers then? Code tests online or in person?
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neither. Coding tests are typically like hiring a novelist based on a spelling test. It leaves out the important details.
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Hello, I'm Rebecca. Whiteboards suck. I can't hold a marker for over a few minutes, I can type nonstop. I wrote Bard's Tale III.
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My programming career can be traced back to BT3 and altering hex values in character files to avoid XP grinding. Thank you!
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100% agree: the ability to write beautiful, well-architected code, drawing what works and discarding what doesn't, and learning from experience and others is far more important than wrote memorization (which our education system values over the former), is far more important
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@dhh When@BarackObama visited@Google in 2006 he was asked how he'd sort a billion phone nums in RAM. He said he wouldn't use bubble sort. -
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He didn't, but it was a good non-answer.
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be prepared to be gloriously unhirable and then work for yourself in an endless spiral of joy and happiness!
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Internships and project work are a godsend-even if they're only a couple of weeks long. Best way to know someone's work.
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unless it wasn't clear, I wasn't being sarcastic. Abstaining from shitty "agency world" jobs is the greatest.
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