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    DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

    DHH Retweeted George Montgomery Jr

    Gig exploitation math is very simple. IRS sets the standard mileage deduction every year based on avg costs for fuel, maintenance, tires, insurance, and depreciation. In 2019, it’s 58 cents/mile. Doordash pays $5 for 10 mile delivery INC tips. Net loss to driver: 80 cents.https://twitter.com/gmontgomery2021/status/1205484036367491072 …

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    George Montgomery Jr @gmontgomery2021
    And orders like these that are NOT IN MY STARTING POINT. I guess I'm supposed to travel 20-30 minutes out of my zone to appease doordash. And then travel that distance back so I'm in zone and can get another order? @workingwa @DoorDash @t_xu Your greed is showing!! pic.twitter.com/9hI6ZfAaMM
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      2. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        This math doesn’t even include the time spent between taking gigs. Any wait time is paid for by the gig worker. Why would anyone do this?? Because income today puts food on the table and a roof over your head. Expenses like depreciation, maintenance, tires hit later.

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      3. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        This is also why the gig economy has such incredibly high turn-over. Once you’ve put 100k miles on your car for peanuts, you’re suddenly hit with the bill for a new transmission or whatever. Wiped out. These companies chew through desperation and spit out destitution.

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      4. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        The entire scam of “be your own boss” is just a cover for “cover your own expenses, shoulder your own risk, suffer built-up liabilities”. It’s a tag line that preys on people’s aspirations for a better life while giving them a worse one. It’s cruel, abusive, and exploitive.

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      5. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        So here’s the kicker: You cannot profitably deliver food over a 10 mile distance for $5. A 10-mile delivery must at MINIMUM cost $5.80 for mileage, ~$7 for driver time, and let’s say $3.84 (+30%) for company overhead = ~$17. Would you pay that much for delivery of food?

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      6. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        These companies are very popular because they sell $17 delivery services for less than half their production costs. And their only path to reducing losses is to exploit the gig workers harder. That’s why they keep cutting pay, asking workers to subsidize the unsustainable.

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      7. DHH‏Verified account @dhh 28 Jan 2020

        It was a complete fantasy that suddenly everyone could afford a private driver, servants fetching food, and assistants running errands without workers being exploited AND simultaneously creating multi-billion dollar gig-app companies. Complete fucking fantasy.

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      2. Mohammed‏ @Algoriitmo 28 Jan 2020
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        It probably works out a little bit better for doordashers because IRS standard is a bit high (or average and their costs are below that). Should work out to just under minimum wage

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      3. James Perkins‏ @james_r_perkins 28 Jan 2020
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        The fact you said, should work out to just under minimum wage is the exact problem with gig economy, there shouldn't be a "should" nor hoping that you get enough tips or price surge to make ends meet while using your own car which depreciate in value and require upkeep

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      1. Marcos Filho‏ @mark1nhu 28 Jan 2020
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        wait for angry ultra liberals not having a single clue about what depreciation is.

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      2. Night Picker : Helping Restaurants‏ @newBIGbrand 28 Jan 2020
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        not sustainable long-term

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      3. KML‏ @KaMeLPullin 28 Jan 2020
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        VCs still funding it, still profiting.

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