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    DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

    Google is letting law enforcement trawl for suspects by asking “who was in this area, during this time?”. Google has the location records of hundreds of millions of people going back years. Seriously disturbing.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/13/us/google-location-tracking-police.html …

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      2. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        People are ending up in jail because they had their Google-tracked phone on them at the wrong time in the wrong place. It’s utterly reprehensible that Google stores location data like this for so long. If the data is there, the cops will ask for it. Don’t. Keep. The data!!

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      3. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        Next question should be: Does this “only” concern Android phones or are iOS phones running Google Maps liable to this kind of invasive, dangerous tracking as well? That sounds like the best argument for switching to Apple Maps I’ve yet heard.

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      4. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        “But cell phone companies track this data too!”, goes the defense. Except, no. Google’s data is far more precise. Here’s the police cheering about what a “game changer” it is to be able to mine Google’s location records with geofence warrants 😧pic.twitter.com/iI2WxveBJR

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      5. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        It’s atrocious that Google is allowed to store location data on people in this manner indefinitely. These records, inasmuch as they’re required to provide vital services (like maps), should be a) short-lived and b) anonymous. But that of course conflicts with Google’s biz model.

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      6. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        What’s even more tragic is that Google’s collection of location data is likely to disproportionately hit people who buy cheap Android phones. The kind of people least likely to have the resources to fight a false charge, based on data generated by using said phone. ☠️

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      7. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Apr 13

        “The data that is sent to Maps while you use the app — such as search terms, navigation routing, and traffic information — is never tied to your Apple ID”, okay, switching. I’d rather be taken to the wrong place than have my every move tracked forever.https://www.apple.com/ios/maps/ 

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      1. Santosh Kumar‏ @santosh79 Apr 13
        Replying to @dhh

        Most people don’t understand that the bedrock for civil liberties and freedoms lies on privacy. They think that “I have nothing to hide.” Newflash, everyone does. However, trivial.

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      1. Hashim Warren‏ @hashim_warren Apr 13
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        I've been stopped by police 11 times and counting. Seriously - I keep location tracking on because I think it will exonerate me one day.https://soundcloud.com/hashim/fit-the-description …

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      2. Mark Przepiora‏ @MarkPrzepiora Apr 13
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        One particularly concerning detail is that google location history has garbage accuracy. When I have it enabled, it regularly gets places wrong. How many people are getting investigated based on inaccurate location data?

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      1. Adrian Short‏ @adrianshort Apr 13
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        In other news, Google is trying to install 1000 "free wifi" kiosks on streets across the UK. 400 are already in: https://kiosks.adrianshort.org 

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      2. Larry Kihlstadius‏ @LKNavy Apr 13
        Replying to @dhh @no_fear_inc

        Conflicted. You volunteer to be tracked by using the service. Obviously there is more law enforcement work leading to actual arrests. As someone that follows the law, I like it. As a libertarian, not so much. Need to soak on this.

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      3. Mario Peshev‏ @no_fear_inc Apr 13
        Replying to @LKNavy @dhh

        I do agree with the general brainstorming. But storing data for years? I can't recall where I had breakfast last Thursday, let alone justifying anything 4 years ago.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Edward Fryrear‏ @GuyEdFry Apr 13
        Replying to @no_fear_inc @LKNavy @dhh

        Half the time I fire up Maps or go to some website and it asks for Location they think i'm 150-200 miles away. . . surely this can't be accurate or legal way to build a case against somebody?

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      5. Mr. E‏ @brisance Apr 13
        Replying to @GuyEdFry @no_fear_inc and

        Banality of evil—their KPI metrics are convictions, not justice.

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      2. ajaya‏ @ajaya Apr 13
        Replying to @dhh

        I have been an @Android guy all my life. Switching to @Apple is painful but I will start with the 249$ SE to see if I can live with it. Tracking & sharing to this level isn't ok.

        1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
      3. Joe Ortiz‏ @LeoJTravis10 Apr 14
        Replying to @ajaya

        Think about getting a Librem 5.https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ …

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      4. ajaya‏ @ajaya Apr 14
        Replying to @LeoJTravis10

        First time hearing. I will have to check it out

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      2. Werner‏ @worldwidewerner Apr 13
        Replying to @dhh

        Does this also happen when you have turned off "Maps history" telling google not to store your previous locations?

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      3. dodot  🇫🇷‏ @nododot Apr 14
        Replying to @worldwidewerner @dhh

        Nope but this should be opt-in, few people are even aware of it

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