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    1. Philippe Castonguay‏ @PhABCD 11 Oct 2019
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      Wouldn't the insurer be the most at risk in case of a vulnerability, since they have to refund insured parties? It's not clear to me what the unethical aspect is in this scenario, though I must admit I am not familiar with the insurance world.

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    2. Philippe Castonguay‏ @PhABCD 11 Oct 2019
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      Since contracts are public, if there is a vulnerability in a contract they are the insurance counterparty for, isn't it in their interest to do everything to prevent that vulnerability from being exploited? Imo, seems like a more certain way of avoiding to reimburse losses.

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    3. Philippe Castonguay‏ @PhABCD 11 Oct 2019
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      Let's assume it is covered yes, though it seems to me like if it's not covered then they are back to wearing the security auditor hat and putting their reputation at risk for not resolving it.

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    4. Dan Guido‏ @dguido 11 Oct 2019
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      Security vendors don’t resolve bugs, we advise on risk. It’s the owners perogative to take risks. If a bug is found after they deploy, that’s on the owner, not on me. I would hope our advice helped address that near inevitably, too, so handling it was quick with little impact.

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    5. Dan Guido‏ @dguido 11 Oct 2019
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      Your doctor can’t control your legs and make you run. It’s not their fault if you don’t listen to every academic study they know could help you. This fantasy that a security vendor is somehow responsible for a client getting hacked is completely wrong.

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    6. Philippe Castonguay‏ @PhABCD 11 Oct 2019
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      I've never implied that security auditors are responsible for bugs in the code they audit, but it seems clear to me that an auditor that continually fails to report and disclose vulnerabilities that later get exploited will have a hard time finding new clients.

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    7. Dan Guido‏ @dguido 11 Oct 2019
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      Maybe, or maybe you only booked 15 minute checkups when you needed a 2hr physical, or you’ve got a rare disease only a special test could find, or new research came out with risk factors no one understood before, or you didn’t like my advice and ignored it, etc.

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      Dan Guido‏ @dguido 11 Oct 2019
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      Even if there was a clear and continuing pattern of malpractice where a doctor should have known better, where does an insurance product (really, a prediction market) add any extra value here? If these failures are visible, isn’t that enough?

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        2. Philippe Castonguay‏ @PhABCD 11 Oct 2019
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          As a patient, I want to have the most thorough analysis of my health and not go bankrupt if something bad happens. As an insurer, I want all the info on my patients to evaluate the risks and properly price the coverage. In both cases, the doctor has the most knowledge on patients

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        3. Dan Guido‏ @dguido 11 Oct 2019
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          As a patient, if you want to avoid dying early then you should take less risk. Insurers can take your medical records into account to offer you a policy, just like Nexus Mutual can read any public or request any private reports from us, with owner permission, of course.

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