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Reverse engineer, Dolphin Emulator developer and maintainer. Infrastructure security engineer @ $employer.

Zürich, Switzerland
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    1. Marc Espie‏ @espie_openbsd 23 Dec 2019
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      chromium is not opensource... See https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=451248#c17 … Basically closing a bug with "wontfix" because a platform is *NOT SUPPORTED* is *NOT* how opensource works. @sfermigier

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    2. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens 23 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @espie_openbsd @nomadlogicLA @sfermigier

      I'm confused. Are you saying that the maintainers of open-source software don't get to decide which platforms their software will support? 1/3

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    3. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens 23 Dec 2019
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      If somebody wants to fork the software to add support for a platform the other maintainers don't want to support, they can do that. 2/3

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    4. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens 23 Dec 2019
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      But "open-source" doesn't mean "you must support every platform, accept every bug report as valid, and merge every PR." 3/3

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    5. Marc Espie‏ @espie_openbsd 23 Dec 2019
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      We don't ask them to go out of their way to support things... it's just one example among many, downright hostile to anything that's not in their plan.

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    6. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens 23 Dec 2019
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      Which, again, doesn't mean that "chromium is not opensource." I am sympathetic to your concerns but I don't think they justify weaponizing the term "opensource" in a disingenuous way.

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    7. nomadlogicLA‏ @nomadlogicLA 23 Dec 2019
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      well it's certainly against the spirit of opensource. making your code available to others improve the code for their own use-cases. it's not like the BSD community has been asking google^H^Hchrome to make huge incompatible changes here, they aren't accepting patches.

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    8. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens 23 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @nomadlogicLA @espie_openbsd @sfermigier

      The only thing required for something to be "opensource" is in the name. As I said above, it doesn't mean "must accept every patch." If you don't understand why a project maintainer might reject some patches, then you understand opensource less than you think you do.

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    9. Marc Espie‏ @espie_openbsd 24 Dec 2019
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      There is the letter and there is the spirit. One large problem with big corporations is that they don't play ball. They benefit from all the work thrown into opensource projects (I'm sure google uses ssh, for instance, among other things), but they don't always cooperate.

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      Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ Dec 31
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      Replying to @espie_openbsd @jikamens and

      > (I'm sure google uses ssh, for instance, among other things), but they don't always cooperate. Google literally hired djm and pay him to work on OpenSSH. I'm extremely confused by what you consider to be cooperating vs. benefiting.

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        2. Marc Espie‏ @espie_openbsd Jan 1
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          Replying to @delroth_ @jikamens and

          At some point, when people put a lot of effort into making your tools work on a given OS, you stop saying it's "not supported" and you let a few things get integrated. Chromium fully supports pledge on OpenBSD for instance, but it's definitely not in the upstream version.

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        3. (((Jonathan Kamens)))‏ @jikamens Jan 1
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          No one here disagrees that Google is obnoxious not to accept patches to support OpenBSD better. All I objected to was your and others' insistence that because they don't, they're "not opensource." Maybe just admit that's wrong rather than repeatedly trying to change the subject?

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