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Reverse engineer, Dolphin Emulator developer and maintainer. Infrastructure security engineer @ $employer.

Zürich, Switzerland
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    1. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      I guess they've realized this was a dumb policy, because under the current rules what I did was totally fine. Unfortunately, at the time, instead, what I got was a flamewar with @cdibona where he accused me of putting both Google and Pulseaudio in jeopardy. For a 9-line bugfix.

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    2. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      This proceeded with a bit of back and forth where I mentioned my bad experience with IARC. DiBona was having none of it, so instead he opted to *ban me from the IARC & open sourcing processes*. I was told to "go through employment legal" for any further issues.

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    3. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      It was at this point that I pulled up my Google employee contract, and looked *very* carefully at the IP ownership clause. As it turns out, I had missed a little detail. It was *obviously* modeled after CA labor code (even though I was in Ireland), but there was a difference.

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    4. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      CA labor code says, in pseudolegalese: You own THING you do on your own time without company equipment IF NOT ( THING relates to the company's business OR THING results from work you did for the company )

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    5. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      Since Google's business is basically everything technology, you do not own anything in practice. E.g. I was told that since Android has an audio server too, that the Pulseaudio patch was in scope and owned by Google.

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    6. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      However, my contract was worded differently: You own THING you do on your own time without company equipment IF ( NOT THING relates to the company's business OR NOT THING results from work you did for the company )

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    7. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      It is evident Google would do better to hire computer science graduates for lawyers, because whoever wrote that clearly didn't understand boolean logic and De Morgan's laws. This is wrong: ¬(𝑃 ∨ 𝑄) ⇎ (¬𝑃) ∨ (¬𝑄) The correct equivalence is: ¬(𝑃 ∨ 𝑄) ⇔ (¬𝑃) ∧ (¬𝑄)

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    8. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      And so, *as long as* whatever I did in my spare time and without using Google resources did not result from work I did for Google, it didn't matter one bit whether it "related to Google's business", which is the loophole they use to own everything you do.

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    9. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      And so I resolved to give zero shits from that point on about their IP ownership policies, and did whatever I wanted in my spare time. If you work for Google (Ireland especially) you should check your employment contract carefully. You might be able to do the same.

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    10. Hector Martin‏ @marcan42 18 Dec 2019
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      I hope Google's employees are able to unionize and this is one of the changes they should demand. No company should be able to own things you do in your spare time, especially if they don't relate at all to your job description (regardless of whether they do to someone else's).

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      Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 18 Dec 2019
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      There is a new loophole in policies now: oss-patching allows sending patches to any FOSS project on GitHub that doesn't need CLA and isn't AGPL. So you could just ask someone to create a repo for you with a COPYING file in it. Technically. Not that I would ever have done that.

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        1. q3k‏ @q3k 18 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @delroth_ @marcan42 @byuu_san

          I prefer the loophole of quitting an oppressive, aggressive, imperialistic employer.

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