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Reverse engineer, Dolphin Emulator developer and maintainer. Infrastructure security engineer @ $employer.

Zürich, Switzerland
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    1. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      yes, but TBR is... sketch whereas peer review is SOP.

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    2. Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 17 Dec 2019
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      Would you say peer review without g4 mail (no cc) and with reviewers from completely unrelated teams is SOP? We might not have followed the same procedures, for me the latter is at best exception/unusual, the former is explicit attempt at covering up.

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    3. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      it's easy enough to do by accident. if the issue is that CLs shouldn't be submitted without g4 mail, then maybe critique shouldn't allow pressing 'submit' without 'mail' first. If it shows LGTM and eligible to submit...

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    4. Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 17 Dec 2019
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      In context, would you interpret that as an accident or as an attempt to hide things (maybe realizing your team wouldn't approve of what you're doing)? I agree that accidents happen, but accidents correlated with controversial changes are rare².

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    5. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) Retweeted Matthew Garrett

      If her team wouldn't approve of what she was doing, then why does her tech lead back her?https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1207003914718998528 …

      Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) added,

      Matthew Garrett @mjg59
      Kathryn was on my team. There was zero reason why she should have asked anyone else on the team for authorisation to make changes to this extension. That's not how we do things. https://twitter.com/alibreland/status/1206979396957065216 …
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    6. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      There's a difference between "management finds this inconvenient" and "this was done without the team's approval" or "this was done outside the team's process". and all of this is light years away from "this was a security breach."

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    7. Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 17 Dec 2019
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      I agree with all of that. I think the consequences for Kathryn are disproportionate and unjustified. I also think that Kathryn acted in a sketchy way and abused her privileges by deliberately bypassing the standard process. I don't think these are opposing viewpoints.

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    8. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      Then let's focus on the "disproportionate and unjustified" bit and Google's unusual recent harshness. Remember Google Walkout's gLinux desktop change? Can you imagine how likely it is that that kind of employee expression is going to happen under a retaliatory climate?

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    9. Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真)‏Verified account @lizthegrey 17 Dec 2019
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      we don't need to nitpick this situation to death; doing so is effectively undermining our interests as workers and helping management get away with labor rights suppression, sexual harassment, payouts, etc.

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    10. Laurence Berland‏ @laurenceb 17 Dec 2019
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      The nitpicking is a straightforward defensive reflex; people are scared because everything that happened to the now 5 of us terminated could absolutely happen to anyone at Google, and it takes a certain degree of intentional cognitive dissonance to know that and still go to work.

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      Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 17 Dec 2019
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      Please don't project your insecurities on others. Fear of Google firing me has never been a factor in my actions. If you were at all involved in the internal investigation efforts around Dragonfly you would probably know this.

      8:55 PM - 17 Dec 2019
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        2. Pierre Bourdon‏ @delroth_ 17 Dec 2019
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          The difference between "getting fired after following SOP" vs. "getting fired after having taken specific actions to hide tracks and bypass usual review process" is *not* nitpicking. If you think it is, it's a valuable data point about your judgment and how much I should trust it

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        3. Laurence Berland‏ @laurenceb 17 Dec 2019
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          I guess it's not 'nitpicking' that you think using the web-based tools to ask for reviews and submit CLs is "specific actions to hide tracks and bypass usual review process", I should not have repeated that word.

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