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    1. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8

      Thoughts: 1) I wonder whether this is not closing down, in part, because GDPR? 2) God forbid that http://Medium.COM  ever close down in the same way 3) The death of enough of these services could kickstart the next round of self-hosted blogs, dangerous in a different way…

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    2. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett

      Re #2 that day is coming for sure. And much much more will be lost if Mozilla, Google and the EFF succeed in ending the life of HTTP.

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    3. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
      Replying to @davewiner

      Why HTTP?

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    4. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett

      Why are they doing it? Their answer is unconvincing. I suspect it has to do with Google protecting their ads from being tampered with by isps.

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    5. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
      Replying to @davewiner

      Rephrasing: what are you [presumably] concerned is replacing HTTP, and why?

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    6. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett

      http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/18/0667.html …

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    7. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
      Replying to @davewiner

      Ah, sorry Dave, that's bullshit. HTTPS can be enabled for free on any reasonable webserver by using LetsEncrypt. Okay, so, your preferred mechanism of publication apparently is static content in a bucket? That's novel, but it doesn't make HTTPS into "security theatre".

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    8. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett

      How incredibly offensive. I have hundreds of domains, 24 years of ideas and innovation all of which will disappear just like the storify content you care about si much. But I am not going to argue with you -- I am exhausted, and btw you are very rude.

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    9. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
      Replying to @davewiner

      Apparently some people are doing it like this [attached] - if you're worried about a few bucks then maybe you can go beat up Jeff Bezos rather than trash-talk HTTPS.https://www.h3xed.com/web-development/using-https-with-amazon-s3-and-your-domain …

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    10. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett @davewiner

      Yes, I am very rude. I am not a nice person, most especially to people - even the notably competent - who point their weaponry entirely at the wrong target. The problem is not HTTPS, it is busted old infra. Had you come up with a legit HTTPS issue, then sure. Amazon is not one.

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      scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
      Replying to @AlecMuffett

      HTTPS is going to burn huge portions of the open web, far more than Storify, and no amount of rudeness (or hype) is going to change that. I'm not the issue, although it will wipe out all my work. It's a huge loss for all of us if it actually happens.

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        2. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
          Replying to @davewiner

          …or, you could install certificates and/or press Amazon to plug the functionality gap. Alternately, launch a campaign to deprecate SSH in favour of Telnet.

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        3. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
          Replying to @AlecMuffett

          I don't understand.

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        4. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
          Replying to @davewiner

          Are you using SSH? Yes? Why? Telnet/RSH did a perfectly good job. Oh, wait, SSH is more secure, more tamperproof, more efficient. As-is HTTPS. Both SSH and HTTPS are fit for use in the modern environment. That's why.

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        5. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
          Replying to @AlecMuffett @davewiner

          Anyone who accesses http://scripting.com , Dave — because they love what you do — is at risk of receiving content which has been tampered-with in flight, possibly had malware injected. Because http://scripting.com  is not providing the protection of HTTPSpic.twitter.com/g6ttA7agfm

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        6. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
          Replying to @AlecMuffett @davewiner

          It's heading towards a world where plain-old HTTP is as irresponsible as casual sex without protection; simply, you're gambling with everyone's health. I, too, have HTTPS criticisms — notably the centralisation risks of cert issuance — but they're becoming less with time.

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        7. scripting.com‏Verified account @davewiner Feb 8
          Replying to @AlecMuffett

          If it's such a great idea, no need to force anyone to do it, it should sell itself. Anyway, I don't have any more time for this, good luck with your efforts to save Storify content. Eventually I think you will come to understand what I'm saying when the lights go out on the web.

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        8. Alec Muffett‏ @AlecMuffett Feb 8
          Replying to @davewiner

          I already some blogs from the misery of "Typepad" and put them onto Wordpress. Software and protocols change, Dave.

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        1. Vincent Lynch‏ @vtlynch Feb 8
          Replying to @davewiner @AlecMuffett

          This simply isn’t true, Dave. You are ignoring the last 5 years of history in which HTTPS has become easier to manage (even automated with the latest tools), and will be entirely free for the vast majority of websites.

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