@zeynep I can dispute little of your piece. But it occurs to me that the priority for the videomakers was to first create a viral video.
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@zeynep That the piece also functions as crappy research comes off as secondary to their primary goal.2 retweets 3 likes -
@zeynep The one thing I feel was unacknowledged: the criteria for a good online video is WAY different than the criteria for good research.0 retweets 2 likes -
@davechensky I don't disagree! I took the "let's take this at face value as a claim to a finding" approach. But yes.. Virality was the goal.1 retweet 1 like -
@zeynep Ok, so I appreciate what you're trying to do, but let's say they COULD have made it methodologically sound but the resulting video..0 retweets 1 like -
@zeynep ..would've only garnered 100K views instead of like 31 million. Is that a trade-off you believe the videomakers should have made?0 retweets 2 likes -
@zeynep Should we as a society who are now benefitting from discussion (despite its lack of methodological rigor) have made the tradeoff?0 retweets 1 like -
@zeynep Haha I sound like I'm advocating for awful research. Not true. Just saying we should ponder the "creative" value of the video too.0 retweets 0 likes -
@davechensky That's a great point about virality, something that drives so much of what folks do these days. I'm going to add this as a note0 retweets 0 likes -
@zeynep To put it another way: If the opening 30 secs of the video was inaudible white guy catcalls, it might not've been as popular.
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@davechensky I added that as a note & an important point, but one I'm not discussing in depth. The other one is choice of who became "bait".1 retweet 0 likes -
@zeynep Indeed. Thanks for your work, and for being open to discussion about things. Keep it up! I'm a huge fan :)1 retweet 0 likes
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@davechensky@zeynep maybe white dudes' catcalls just aren't as entertaining. Clearly I need to up my catcall game0 retweets 0 likes
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