Which I've exploited to save costs over commodity cloud. I've also happily gone in the other direction... Again, how these are defined really isn't that significant any more IMHO...
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Replying to @darachennis @skeptomai
it's great that it works for you - just don't humpty dumpty the definition and call custom hosting cloud
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Replying to @marypcbuk @skeptomai
I didn't. Pretty sure any such definitions over simplify. Probably fine for your purpose as a communicator and journalist in the grand scheme of things
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Replying to @darachennis @marypcbuk
Wow, for the record, that response sounded douche-y. I was there literally at the birth of EC2 and I agree with Mary.
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Replying to @skeptomai @marypcbuk
? So, the working definition of cloud in operation here is EC2, AWS, CNCFs... happy to be corrected but please offer a definition. Not asking too much?
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Replying to @darachennis @marypcbuk
Nice passive-aggressive question. Now you are just trying to box people into a definition you can start a fight over. I'm not biting.
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Replying to @skeptomai @marypcbuk
I'm already humpty dumpty! Honestly not being aggressive at all, just confused as to how this escalated... Apologies if i seem douchy... my fault / my bad if so...
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Replying to @darachennis @skeptomai
over the years there have been north of 30 definitions of cloud but *none* of them involve specifying things that tie you to specific revisions of hardware and drivers; cloud is about abstracting away from that
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Replying to @marypcbuk @skeptomai
It just displaces concerns from firmware/driver revisions to instance capabilities etc... Not seeing a win or loss, just apples vs oranges. Doesn't GPU enhanced, EBS-Optimized and reserved vs spot ... speciation break this illusion?
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Replying to @darachennis @skeptomai
no because you are choosing from a fixed, non customisable set of machines - you're still not tweaking knobs and making a snowflake setup so there is economy of scale and instant failover - which are two of the things that make it cloud
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Not sure what a 'snowflake setup' is but they can have the same properties as those you're ascribing to the cloud and certainly aren't snowflakes to the folk building them, at scale, typically for good reason too.
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