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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 21 Nov 2017
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      How good are people at making decisions? http://danluu.com/bad-decisions/ 

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 21 Nov 2017
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      A side effect of the lack of data on practices is that charismatic people with compelling stories have outsized influence. How many folks learned Lisp because of this story? The two most valuable startups of that era (GOOG&AMZN) were Blub-based, but this story still has currencypic.twitter.com/mxZJd5kiu5

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        2. Dan Bentley‏ @dbentley 21 Nov 2017
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          I disagree on GOOG. Yes, the languages were blub, b/c their killer idiom was at another level: dist-sys. Protobufs,stubby,mapreduce,gfs

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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 21 Nov 2017
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          That's the point! PG focused on languages and claimed Lisp would give companies a technical moat, but the companies that actually built technical moats did so on blub. The next startup to build great infra was arguably FB, despite using the blubbiest blub that ever blubbed.

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        2. John Doty‏ @JohnDoty 21 Nov 2017
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          I agree with the sentiment, but was reminded of something I read: "The original brilliant guys and gals here only allowed two languages in Amazon's hallowed source repository: C and Lisp." (https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/tour-de-babel …) The story may well be apocryphal, of course.

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        3. John Doty‏ @JohnDoty 21 Nov 2017
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          But "charismatic with strong opinions and a compelling narrative" also fits Mr. Yegge to a T. His rants are cut from the same cloth as Mr. Graham's.

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        1. giorgio_v‏ @giorgio_v 21 Nov 2017
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          And we are very good in believing what we want to believe, even if data were available.

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        2. Jon Atack‏ @jonatack 22 Nov 2017
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          This may be an egregious generalization, but the idea that sharp-knife PLs might be better suited to small teams and blub langs for managing dev armies always made a sort of sense to me, and correlates with these data points.

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        3. Jon Atack‏ @jonatack 22 Nov 2017
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          Which takes nothing away from the good point that charismatic people with compelling stories can and do have outsized influence.

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        1. J Paul Daigle‏ @philosodad 22 Nov 2017
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          Well, Google wrote a LOT of python, and the total tech stack of Amazon uses a lot of different languages. One takeaway from this might be "implementation matters a lot, but business model matters more."

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        1. spacebat‏ @spacebat 6 Feb 2018
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          GOOG was Python, AMZN was Perl. Both mentioned by PG in the story as rating some worry, by implication to use Yegge's phrase to some they are an acceptable Lisp.

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