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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      Dan Luu Retweeted Gary Bernhardt

      1. Write a 280 char tweet w/spaces 2. ctrl+a, ctrl+x 3. ctrl+v 4. Tweet becomes 283 to 284 chars This is consistently reproducible for me in FF. In the linked thread, a guy who worked on this feature explains why it's good that undo, cut, copy, etc. don't work correctly 😭https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/891487984465268737 …

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      Gary Bernhardt @garybernhardt
      Replying to @garybernhardt
      You might ask: "isn't writing a good text box hard?" Yes, which is why you *never ever do it*. Never implement controls! They will be wrong!
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    2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      If you've ever wondered why I sometimes have tweets with extra spaces in them, I habitually copy as I type as a "backup". When the web app blows up, I paste to "restore" but twitter breaks this. I remove the extra spaces I can spot, but it's hard to spot if it's at a line break

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    3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      The previous tweet was going to end with an emoji, but inserting the emoji took me from 1 char remaining to -3. Did twitter switch from characters to bytes and switch to the gauge so that it would be less obvious that they switched? 😂😂I just hit insert once and two appeared.

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    4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      I ran into one UI issue that's arguably not a bug and three bugs while typing these tweets. How many person-years would you guess went into this text box? In the linked thread, the guy said he worked on this for years and it doesn't sound like he was the only one.

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    5. Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 19 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @danluu

      We had so many issues like this at Medium, too.

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    6. Nick Santos‏ @nicksantos 19 Nov 2017
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      I wouldn't be so quick to blame Twitter. Many bugs wrt spacing and c&p ended up being browser bugs when we dug in (cf https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=318925 …)

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    7. Nick Santos‏ @nicksantos 19 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @nicksantos @mwichary @danluu

      HTML spacing rules are complex. Any editing surface that treats the HTML as the "data model" is vulnerable to this issue. It's a problem for both native and JS impls.

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    8. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @nicksantos @mwichary

      IMO this isn't a valid excuse for a bad user experience even if it's a valid reason. From the user's standpoint, the app owns the entire experience. Every company I've worked for has deployed numerous workarounds for hardware bugs instead of saying "yolo, it's hardware's fault".

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @danluu @nicksantos @mwichary

      It's not uncommon for cloud vendors to get hardware firmware in order to fix bugs, but twitter can't fix bugs in open source browsers? It might be the right business decision to ship an app where text input is broken but, IMO, that doesn't somehow make it the browser's fault.

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        2. Nick Santos‏ @nicksantos 19 Nov 2017
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          I agree! Not an excuse, just providing historical/technical context for the curious!

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        3. Nick Santos‏ @nicksantos 19 Nov 2017
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          IMO the bugs are rooted in fundamental design flaws in the browser editing component. There was a proposal to redesign the APIs, but the w3c discussion ran into an impasse that is too complicated to fit in this tweet.

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