Been looking at Spacemacs since it's been recommended to me several times and so far I'm pretty shocked how user-hostile Emacs is.
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Replying to @rygorous
Read through the thread, and I think you're a little too fast to generalize your experiences from Spacemacs to Emacs in general. Never used
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Replying to @vgebler
I try Emacs about once every five years. Spacemacs is the most recent attempt.
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All of these things - random dependencies, flaky packages failing mysteriously, lots of dead-chicken-waving on forums/SO threads etc.,
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"every major mode is its own universe" with distinct config settings - are not specific to Spacemacs at all.
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I've been using emacs for over a decade and IMO it's terrible in all the ways mentioned here.
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If I look at the amount of time I spend debugging/fixing brittle/broken packages, emacs dominates all other tools combined for me.
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It sounds like the argument is that's the packages and not emacs? But when I use IDEA/PyCharm/CLion things just work, no packages necessary.
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If you make a tool that's useless out of the box, requiring either custom code or packages, you can't blame the user for using packages.
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