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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Sep 2017
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      Does anyone in the NYC area have a pre-2000 PC with CRT I use to do some input-to-screen latency measurements?

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    2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Sep 2017
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      So far, I've tested or can test a Commodore PET, SGI indy, Symbolics 3620, Next cube, Mac classic, and Apple II, plus some modern machines.

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    3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Sep 2017
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      Unfortunately, old PCs seem to be in a sort of uncanny valley where they're too slow to be useful and too mundane for people to collect.

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    4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Sep 2017
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      Also, does anyone near NYC have a phone I can use for latency/responsiveness benchmarking, esp. an older iPhone?

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    5. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Sep 2017
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      I've started doing basic latency measurements on phones and haven't found and iPhone that's slower than any Android phone.

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    6. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 19 Sep 2017
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      I'm curious if an iPhone or iPhone2 is quicker than a modern Android phone at scroll and/or tap responsiveness.

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    7. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 24 Sep 2017
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      I've started measuring keypress -> USB latency with a logic analyzer and I'm seeing some measurements in the 20ms to 30ms rangepic.twitter.com/nzUPYMS2rn

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 24 Sep 2017
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      Is this plausible? 20ms to 30ms for a keypress seems absurd. OTOH, it's consistent this person's experimenthttp://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1836&sid=080b1b6a517ed1eb6988627c48da080c&start=10 …

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        2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 24 Sep 2017
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          They start measuring from internal switch activation and I start when the key moves, so that could explain the 10ms difference.

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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 26 Sep 2017
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          Also, does anyone in the NYC area have an "interesting" keyboard I can borrow to test?

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        4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 26 Sep 2017
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          So far, I've tested a couple gaming keyboards and a bunch of other "normal" keyboards. The gaming keyboards haven't been faster.

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        2. Arnout Engelen‏ @raboofje 24 Sep 2017
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          Interesting! When measuring MIDI latencies I noticed jitter threw me off way more than the actual latency - wonder if that'd apply here too?

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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 26 Sep 2017
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          Yeah, seems like it should. Most keyboard latency is probably jitter inducing (USB polling, matrix polling)

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        2. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 24 Sep 2017
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          that's about right, yes. Keyboards are actually bad because a lot of them have fairly low scan rates to begin with.

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        3. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 24 Sep 2017
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          (I think some "gamer" keyboards have higher?)

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        1. Noah Gibbs‏ @codefolio 24 Sep 2017
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          OnLive found shockingly high delay on a fair number of game controllers. Local controllers are often slow.

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        1. James Moughan‏ @jamougha 24 Sep 2017
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          Yes not unusual. Unplug other devices when doing the measurement as some can cause input lag to increase for the whole machine.

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