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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 29 May 2017
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      Most frustrating genre of comment is "You're lying about [trivially true positive thing]." If I wanted to lie, I'd make better stories.

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 29 May 2017
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      "Consultants are routinely paid more than $200 per hour. $300k not an exceptional pay package. Some managers are not abusive." Boring! True!

      3 replies 5 retweets 52 likes
    3. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 29 May 2017
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      I agree with the other two, but 300k is an exceptional pay package unless you're talking about VP level positions or very specific company

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    4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 29 May 2017
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      Jeff, you're not right. Tens of thousands of people at AppAmaGooBookSoft have this pay package. Most turn tickets into code as main job.

      4 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
    5. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 29 May 2017
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      Are you including benefits and profit sharing and 401k and other in that 300k? I barely made half that in my entire career even at Stack.

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    6. Randall Koutnik‏ @rkoutnik 29 May 2017
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      For a field with an average salary of $95k, 300k *is* exceptional, the fact that higher salaries exist notwithstanding.

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    7. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 29 May 2017
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      It is weird that @patio11 has a blind spot here

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    8. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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      IMO the strange thing is that 300k for a programmer is less exceptional than 300k for a lawyer, but many programmers find 300k unbelievable

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    9. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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      whereas lawyers making $50k/yr don't have a hard time believing that lawyers at white shoe firms can make > $300k/yr

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Pumpkin Fright 👨‍⚕️ 🍕‏ @DrPizza 30 May 2017
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      I'd have to see histograms of each career.

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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      This is too long for twitter, but you can see this by looking at the % of people who land jobs at top law firms and then looking at their...

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        2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          salary schedules wrt experience, which tend to be fixed even for Nth year associates. Then look at their attrition (high due to up-or-out)

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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          then compare to the percentage of people who land jobs at software companies that pay competitively (Google, FB, Amazon, etc.) and...

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        4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          ...compare attrition rates, keeping in mind that people who lose the up-or-out system at law firms typically move to less lucrative roles...

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          ...whereas a lot of attrition in engineering roles is people moving into more lucrative roles.

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        6. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          For reference, here's the salary schedule and bonus schedule for Cravath from last year: https://danluu.com/bimodal-compensation/ …pic.twitter.com/Ahh8xYB1hE

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        7. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          It looks like you'd need 4 years at a place like Cravath, Skadden, etc., to hit $300k/yr. It's hard to get precise numbers for tech, but...

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        8. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 30 May 2017
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          I believe people have much better odds of getting or landing a $300k job at Google/FB/Amazon than surviving 4 years at Cravath/Skadden/etc

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 31 May 2017
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          you should blog it!

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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 31 May 2017
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          I would if I thought that I could convince people, but this seems like one of the hardest tech topics to convince people on!

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