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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 29 Sep 2016
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      intel actually has the longest errata lists bc complexity. If security were the real reason, they'd remove intel.

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    2. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 29 Sep 2016
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      the idea is, one platform less to test. Huge relief to the whole pipeline, negligible cost. Security QA is costly.

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    3. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 29 Sep 2016
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      My real concern was: what are they gonna do if an Intel CPU has NaCl-security-relevant errata? Blacklist Intel too?

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    4. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 29 Sep 2016
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      The current approach flat-out _doesn't work_ if they ever actually run into a relevant 0-day.

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    5. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 29 Sep 2016
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      A workable approach can certainly include more fine-grained white-/black-listing based on family ID etc.

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    6. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 29 Sep 2016
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      But right now, none of that kind of logic exists. No good. Once you need it, you want it battle-tested already!

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    7. Fabian Giesen‏ @rygorous 29 Sep 2016
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      The *last* thing you want for security is to have to roll out untested extra infrastructure on a 0-day patch.

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    8. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 29 Sep 2016
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      there have been errata that gce/azure/aws have had to push patches for but afaik NaCl hasn't done anything...

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    9. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 29 Sep 2016
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      ..about some of those. There's a reason literally every Google platforms person I talked to thought this was dumb

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    10. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 29 Sep 2016
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      as far as anyone can tell, someone talked themselves into a corner and now they won't back down

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 29 Sep 2016
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      also, the idea that they've actually tested every stepping they're compatible with (or even most) is silly

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        1. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 8 Dec 2019
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          Nu, it's a world of tradeoffs. You can always be purist, and tell they haven't tested the exact die you're holding. But in practice they'd serve their customers better by investing more in the common case and not supporting rare cases. Garage treats rare cars worse than common.

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