Dan Luu

@dhw It’s been extremely difficult for start-ups and middle america blue chips to compete for talent against silicon valley.

@jeremiahg Both can, they choose not to. Significant equity for startups, significant cash for blue-chips. They don't want to pay.

@dhw As an example, reportedly CISO are now commanding $500K - $1M+ now. ORGs are paying, just aint enough people to go round.

@jeremiahg Paying a lot for a C-level does not translate into necessarily paying a lot for the actual line specialists you need.

@dhw I’ve seen $200K+ there. I’m telling ya, there just ain’t enough people… no matter high much they’re willing to pay.

@jeremiahg @dhw $200K/y isn’t very much compared to either Lenovo’s US$20B/y laptop sales, Google acqui-hires, or Wall Street quant bonuses.

@jeremiahg @dhw Like, US$200k/year is about 0.001% of Lenovo’s laptop revenue here, or 1% of Lenovo’s CEO’s salary. Is infosec so worthless?

@kragen @jeremiahg @dhw $200k/year in total comp or salary? That's not a lot for total comp nowadays: http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Senior-Staff-Software-Engineer-Salaries-E9079_D_KO7,37.htm ….