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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      I find the SSC "Too much dark money in almonds" post interesting because it starts from the premise that there obviously isn't too much dark money in almonds, an argument from incredulity, and uses this (and similar) to argue that there isn't too much dark money in politics, but

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    2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      if you start looking at almonds, it seems like there's too much dark money in almonds? For example, here's a water policy expert who thinks a lot about CA water policy discussing the impact of almonds on CA https://onthepublicrecord.org/2015/05/05/turning-the-tables-on-almonds/ … https://onthepublicrecord.org/2015/04/17/more-almonds-make-them-prove-they-have-the-water-first/ …https://onthepublicrecord.org/2008/12/17/i-dont-even-like-wine/ …

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    3. Emmett Shear‏Verified account @eshear Apr 27
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      These links are awesome. And they totally reinforce SSC’s point...look how many billions of dollars of almonds they’ve sold, with a relatively tiny investment in politics and advertising. Isn’t it weird how much almonds they’re selling for so little political investment?

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    4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      One of the core mistakes of the SSC post is that it's implied that all dark money can be summed up with the number Scott comes up with, which is of course wrong: a large fraction, perhaps the vast majority, is off the books. My read is that the post has two parts, both incorrect

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    5. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      1. Hey, look at this innocuous industry, almonds, we spend *so much* on it compared to lobbying. 2. If we sum up all the forms of dark money I can count, it's small compared to this innocuous industry. But the "I can count" part is doing a lot of work there.

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    6. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      Rich people suing publications they dislike out of existence apparently doesn't count as influencing politics, nor does creating or buying up major publications. Nor does industry spend on offering government officials lucrative jobs in return for favorable policies, etc.pic.twitter.com/LBokcr8YjH

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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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      Perhaps someone could figure out a way to estimate an upper bound on the sum of all these things combined and argue that it's still small, but the fact that this kind of "indirect" money influencing politics isn't mentioned except in the cases where it seems small, e.g., tumblr,

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        2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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          makes the reasoning seem either ill informed or disingenuous. I'd classify a rhetorical trick SSC often relies on that's on display here, twice in this essay, similarly. If everyone just donated $100 to every cause they thought was at least as important as homelessness,pic.twitter.com/o7BND6fItH

          If everyone who cared about homelessness donated $100 to the problem, homelessness would be solved. Nobody does this, because they know that nobody else is going to do it
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        3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu Apr 27
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          then a lot of people would become insolvent. This "gosh, this isn't that much money, only $x per person" works as rhetoric but the sleight of hand here is that there are, from a personal standpoint, effectively an unbounded number of reasonable causes you could donate $100 to.

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