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    Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Jun 2019
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    Am I the only person who thinks that the fact that so many people with track records fail FizzBuzz is more likely to be a a strike against FizzBuzz than an endorsement? There's another HN hiring thread and ofc. it's full of people warning others about "fake" programmers.pic.twitter.com/6jfLKKziRh

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      2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Jun 2019
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        One of the best engineers I've ever worked with has never passed a "real" interview. He gets so nervous when ordering fast food that he has to repeat his order in his head when he's in line, otherwise he'll freeze up when it's his turn to order. Interviews are even worse for him

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      3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Jun 2019
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        He's only changed jobs once in a 15 year career (when a bunch of his co-workers changed companies and were able to hire him w/o a "real" interview) and has failed every other interview. He got his first job after an internship with no "real" interview.

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      4. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Jun 2019
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        I tried to get him hired at two places I've worked, but ofc. he failed the interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if, somewhere, someone is telling a story like those HN comments, about how they managed to keep out this "fake" programmer with 15 years of experience on his resume.

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      2. Kai‏ @kaixi 12 Jun 2019
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        Replying to @danluu

        Disagree. I'm generally against whiteboard coding questions, but failing something as trivial as FizzBuzz reveals a serious inability to think logically under pressure.

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      3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 12 Jun 2019
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        It's funny that you should mention that because this guy is also known by his co-workers for a go-to person in high pressure engineering situations since he's so good under pressure. Social anxiety and doing engineering work under pressure seem like different things.

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      2. Cory O’Daniel‏ @coryodaniel 12 Jun 2019
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        I got FizzBuzzed for a “senior” role in ruby. I wrote “FizzBuzz.start()” on the board and told them if they didn’t have a FizzBuzz class by now, they should really start embracing DRY. Interviewer laughed & said “it’s a dumb question, this is the best answer I’ve ever got”

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      3. Cory O’Daniel‏ @coryodaniel 12 Jun 2019
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        I got that job BTW

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      2. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger 12 Jun 2019
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        I encounter fake programmers quite routinely. People who literally will need days to write something that prints "hello world" alternating with "goodbye world" 100 times.

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      3. Perry E. Metzger‏ @perrymetzger 12 Jun 2019
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        Now, your overall claim is that there are unusual people who are exceptionally bad at interviewing because of psychological problems that render them so nervous they cannot reliably answer interview questions. I accept that claim.

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      1. Eric Richards‏ @EricRichards22 12 Jun 2019
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        The second one rings very true. I've encountered any number of people who can talk up a big storm of ideas of how a system should work, and rule over meetings, but can't do a lick when you put them in front of the code and make them have to actually implement anything.

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