I'd never thought about it this way before (look at who gets rejected and see what they have in common), but I guess there's one thing interviews are pretty good at filtering for: people who are a certain type of nervous in interviews.
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[raises hand] (I don't know that I get extremely nervous in interviews, but if you ask me something like "what's the toughest bug you ever encountered" I just draw a total blank.) (same phenomenon if you ask me to tell a joke, I simply won't be able to remember one on the spot)
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I was at a party tonight and someone asked me what my favorite book was. Couldn't answer. They relaxed the constraint and asked about "a good book". Couldn't answer. They relaxed the constraint again and asked me about "any book, good or bad". Couldn't answer.
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Based on the rate that I read books when I read a lot (from a young age into my late 20s), I must've read somewhere between 5k and 10k books in my life and I couldn't name a single book off the top of my head (I was able to think of one after maybe 2 minutes)
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Oh, and I failed interviews for 19 months, at one point in my career... had to do a day-labor type job just to pay rent. Worst & best experience in my career. Taught me just how shallow companies have become & how little money I truly need to survive. ($10/hr)
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Survival != enjoyable living Survival = tons of weight loss, stress, & not having money for bus fare to interviews.
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Have a non-traditional CS background and/or be an under-represented minority and it's even more possible to fail 20 interviews in a row. I don't know the exact number but early on in my career I probably got close to that rate.
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People told me I'd face job discrimination for something I had done (didn't serve in the military), interviews were incredibly stressful - when will the question come up? what will I say? I represented myself poorly. I assume people with a criminal record have it even worse.
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I don't get nervous at all. I do interviews for fun. I try to interview at least once a month, no matter where I'm working. I still fail interviews, but I pass more than I fail.
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I've heard enough others saying they do this that I'm starting to wonder if this is hurting the interview process more than helping. If companies expect x% are just there "for fun", they have less care to actually send feedback or respond quickly.
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All my interviews are 'real' in that if I find something I like I'll take it. But the fact that I have a job I mostly like means I'm much less nervous because I don't have to take an offer.
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Thank you for clarifying. I've met several who told me they, not only, interviewed "for fun" but also did it for jobs they had no interest in whatsoever.
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Right there with you. Regardless of prep, my mind goes blank when put on the spot. In data science interviews, that difficulty feels compounded by 2 things: there are a million definitions of what a data scientist does, and questions that have no predictive validity wrt the role
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Wow, you're so talented, I didn't think this could be you. Certain types of interviews used to give me crazy anxiety. The sort in which your heart races and you get motion sickness. Completely impossible to perform in this situation.
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I think it gets easier long-term because people remember working with you and you get a lot of jobs this way. I think I'd still find it painful to go and do a multi-hour whiteboarding duel at a big corp though. Much prefer less antagonistic processes.
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You are one of the smartest programmers I've ever encountered and I'm so mindblown hearing this. I'm judging your interviewers.
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There are certainly more than 4 if you count people who are so nervous about interviews that they avoid them entirely.
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Feels like most interviews are there to simply reject on cache miss. And given that they are ready to hire based on interview questions you would think they should be amazed at anyone who goes from "not knowing" to "knowing" within a few minutes of reading.
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So maybe cache hits (fast and good answers) should passed as non indicative. I feel like good interviews are like this. You DIG until someone doesn't remember something and has to go through there lookup and learning process.
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Are these 4 also all typically quiet, borderline shy, as well, or are any boisterously loud & outgoing?
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Good question, I'm loud, gregarious, extroverted. I enjoy giving talks. I know that helps in interviews.
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They want Steve Jobs, not Steve Wozniak, and I'm more Woz than Jobs, but I'm wanting their jobs (har har, bad pun, sorry). OK, actually I'm kinda like the old Gates, before he had his millions & was quiet & geeky.
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