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    1. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 8 Jul 2018
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      Don't be evil, 2009 edition: "Remove the search engine setting. Hard-code the search engine to Google" https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/GlobalSearch/ …pic.twitter.com/nLIvwkwnp6

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    2. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 18 Jul 2018
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      The EU fined Google ~$5B for anti-competitive Android/search behavior. A Google employee and lawyer (not Google counsel, not speaking on behalf of Google) says Google's real crime was being too open: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-4581_en.htm … https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17559985 …pic.twitter.com/bbLYZzXD4g

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    3. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 18 Jul 2018
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      As a mere lay person, I don't understand why the openness is the problem? Didn't MS get in trouble without being open? It seems to me that things like preventing DDG/Bing from being used are the problem; one could have an open platform that doesn't do the shady stuff Google doespic.twitter.com/uKlCFuUYvA

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    4. Patrick McGuire‏ @mcguirejpatrick 18 Jul 2018
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      MS allowed third party apps like Netscape, if they controlled the distribution they could have silently killed it or just gaslit them weirdness very early on before any regulator would notice

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    5. Patrick McGuire‏ @mcguirejpatrick 18 Jul 2018
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      And Apple hasn’t been fined like this

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    6. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 18 Jul 2018
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      This exact line of defense was used in the 90s/00s by people defending Microsoft and I think the same response applies. Apple's marketshare is larger than back then, but still nowhere near Google's.

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    7. Dan Luu‏ @danluu 18 Jul 2018
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      And as I said, I don't mean legally. I don't love that Apple's platform is so closed, but they don't (just for example) pay off devs to use dark patterns in their installer to trick users into accidentally switching back to chrome from FF:https://twitter.com/danluu/status/887724695558205440 …

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      The chrome team is really killing it wrt using dark patterns to take away what's left of Firefox's marketshare https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14805865 … pic.twitter.com/4pnHrhgikB
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      Dan Luu‏ @danluu 18 Jul 2018
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      Is that legal? Probably, just like MS hiring developer evangelists to sit on standards committee to deadlock them was probably legal, but it still seems morally wrong. If the best defense one can come up with is, some other company hasn't gotten sued for being as bad or worse...

      7:02 PM - 18 Jul 2018
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        2. Patrick McGuire‏ @mcguirejpatrick 18 Jul 2018
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          They're probably correct in the narrow sense that it will make it harder internally. A lot of the push to close are things where the consequences are what most people would want, like you can get a phone that doesn't have large portions of the OS wrecked by carriers...

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        3. Patrick McGuire‏ @mcguirejpatrick 18 Jul 2018
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          ...because they pulled so much of it into closed Google Play Services, which I guess I don't like in the abstract.

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        1. Patrick McGuire‏ @mcguirejpatrick 18 Jul 2018
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          Re: Apple I meant App Store and forgot about Play Store entirely, but it's in the same category - it does strikes me as weird that they go after the search setting but ignore the stranglehold they have on everything else

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