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    1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 19

      ColumPaget Retweeted Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America

      Reminder: Lovecraft died in '37. Jim Crowe laws would be enforced until '65. Eugenics was still respectable. Within ten years Europe would see mass industrialized murder on a racial basis. Orwell commented during WWII on startling racism of American GIs stationed in the UK.https://twitter.com/sfwa/status/997189402295263233 …

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      Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America @sfwa
      AFH: Lovecraft was not a product of his time. Even contemporaries thought he was a racist. Heinlein was a product of the same time as Ursula Le Guin, who later acknowledged her problematic times. People can learn and change.
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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 19
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      there's only one respect in which his racism stands out. he was ALSO racist against white people, where he perceived "dysgenic degradation" or some shit as happening in rural communities. i.e. he took a more comprehensive view of eugenics than some of his peers.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 19
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      which to me suggests that a more accurate characterization of his beliefs would be call him an elitist with a mean streak. he used the popular language and sentiment of his day to express himself in ways that were basically acceptable at the time.

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 19
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          My belief is that he was, in some sense, mentally ill. Both his parents died in insane asylums, and I think he believed that there was some kind of genetic 'taint' in his bloodline that was going to get him too. I recall hearing that his lovecraft-circle contemporaries...

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 19
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          who were also often very racist, found Lovecraft's racism odd because he'd begin to get visibly spooked and terrified in mixed race environments. If you look at his writings the theme of being done in by an inherited taint aquired my 'misegrenation' is dominant.

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 19
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          admittedly, this viewpoint is somewhat undermined by the fact he married a jewish woman, but I think expecting consistency from lovecraft is expecting rather too much. I think he was barely holding together.

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