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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea May 18

      How much of the whole fetishizing over ultimate truth in cults and other forms comes down to nothing more than "I had an experience in this particular way, so it must be the True Way(tm)"?

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    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 18
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      I think a lot of belief is based on experience. I got into an ontological discussion once with a theoretical physicist. We spent a few hours working backward and eventually found that my experiences (using psychedelics) provided me with a basis for belief that diverged from his.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 18
      Replying to @simpolism @Triquetrea

      I am interested in your experience with psychedelics, if you would be kind enough to share

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        2. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea May 18
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism

          Yeah! Are they as boring as mine?

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 18
          Replying to @Triquetrea @simpolism

          I am also interested in your psychedelic experiences, if you would be kind enough to share. I'm very curious about why you say they were boring. Mine have been anything but.

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        4. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea May 18
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism

          It's a half-joke. I have just never had any kind of earth-shattering experiences. If anything, the only deep, profound thing I discovered is that I am antifragile to weirdness.

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        5. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea May 18
          Replying to @Triquetrea @danlistensto @simpolism

          E.g. I was pissed off with a friend of mine before we went on a shroom trip together, the result of which was that I spent half my time trolling him mercilessly.

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        2. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 18
          Replying to @danlistensto @Triquetrea

          The key insight was that sensory experience is fallable to an extent and that even ontological truth is determined by collective agreement re: sensory phenomena. The physicist I think didn't believe in that layer of collective agreement, and saw truth as a binary "is or is not".

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        3. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea May 18
          Replying to @simpolism @danlistensto

          Did you ask them if they thought physics was ontologically complete? The response would be... interesting.

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        4. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 18
          Replying to @Triquetrea @danlistensto

          I imagine they'd cite their atheist status as a response when I'd inevitably have to frame it as "do you think real things exist but whose existence physics cannot determine?"

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