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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17

      rapists are the best example of factional hypocrisy here (argument from hypocrisy is bad though)

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    2. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @browserdotsys

      1. Argument from hypocrisy mostly just ends up justifying continued bad behavior (not accusing ort of this). 2. The framing of sides / disarmament isn't quite appropriate because the sides don't really have leadership that can make decisions and create accountability.

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    3. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @AlexGodofsky @browserdotsys

      To expand on 2: no one can make your side collectively "disarm". However, as an individual, it is *good* for you to "disarm" from doing bad things.

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    4. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @browserdotsys

      It's not a classic prisoner's dilemma. It has many players and vicarious offense. It's essentially impossible to punish any specific offender, you simply punish "the side" (in this case, you aren't even punishing them, you're punishing someone they sort-of-care about) ...

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    5. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @AlexGodofsky @browserdotsys

      ... but as I mentioned, "the side" has no leadership or accountability. So punishment has no real disincentive effect, and in fact it generally just incites more retaliation.

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    6. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @AlexGodofsky @browserdotsys

      Oh, and as a matter of rhetorical effectiveness, I think few people really appreciate how far you'll get with most people by appearing to be a nice person who appreciates them and tries not to be a jerk.

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    7. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky May 17
      Replying to @browserdotsys

      Alex Godofsky Retweeted

      From @danlistensto this is definitely relevant in some way: https://twitter.com/quinnnorton/status/997141805668810753 …

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 17
      Replying to @AlexGodofsky @browserdotsys

      if we're telling evolutionary just-so stories then maybe the ecstatic rush is a vestige of predatory instincts? "awww yisss just killed me some dinner" but the current year social environment is so fucked up that we're preying upon ourselves. social group auto-cannibalism.

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        1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 17
          Replying to @danlistensto @AlexGodofsky @browserdotsys

          "fuck my left leg, it's the bad leg and deserves to die"

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