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    1. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism @MetaHumean

      (among parrots, of course)

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    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @MetaHumean

      I agree, but the point of my original post was to share the definition of "power" that postmodernists are using, not share my support of it. More than willing to share my opinions about aesthetics, though, if that's where you want to pull the conversation.

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    3. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl May 10
      Replying to @simpolism @MetaHumean

      There is more to my critique than simply aesthetics. By making normative claims explicit (among parrots), "cryptonormativism" (a charge leveled by Habermas at Foucault) comes to light. Smuggling a value framework is generally associated with fallacious reasoning.

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    4. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism @MetaHumean

      E.g. (from "The Way We Argue Now" by A. Anderson)pic.twitter.com/HN55F3Yrc6

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    5. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @MetaHumean

      I mean, you read Lyotard's critique of science and he's not himself claiming to be value free, merely claiming that value free discourse does not exist altogether: science is always done for a Reason, even if we're not privy to it. Hanson would probably vis a vis 🐘 in 🧠.

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    6. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl May 10
      Replying to @simpolism @MetaHumean

      I agree that a Platonic ideal of “value-freeness” is impossible, but I’ve found that I can keep engaged with authors who explicitly (even mockingly) state that they hate X for reasons Y and Z, then proceed to analyze it.

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    7. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @MetaHumean

      Yes I agree it is good when authors state upfront what their stances are, and it's a shame the postmodernists don't do that.

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    8. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 10
      Replying to @simpolism @Locus_of_Ctrl @MetaHumean

      isn't it just subtextual? it's not like these guys were secretive about their politics in priorities outside of their actual publications.

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    9. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl May 10
      Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism @MetaHumean

      I agree that everyone knew what Foucault’s politics were, but I’d love to see an essay by Foucault trying to explain why “social hegemony” is intrinsically bad, for example.

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    10. Humean Being‏ @MetaHumean May 10
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @danlistensto @simpolism

      This. A million times this. He claims to not be doing anything normative and just analyzing society, but he's clearly rendering moral judgments left and right. Yet he's methodologically committed to neither making them explicit or justifying them. It's all dark imprecation.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 10
      Replying to @MetaHumean @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism

      adaptive camouflage defense. use only insinuation and subtext to make your arguments so any refutation can be answered with "but I never even said that" even though everybody knows he said that.

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