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    1. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 7

      simpolism Retweeted Aella

      Let's extend this metaphor. If society is a human body, then the state is the brain. Humans are unaware of their motives. If asked "why do you eat?" you might say "bc food tastes good" and not "bc I need food to survive." What might a state's food be? (hint: are pills food?)https://twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/993212066801516544 …

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      Sometimes a society has symptoms, like a body. It coughs the cough of low wages or gets the headache of unaffordable schooling. We are empathetic, we want to help - so we say, give the cough drop of minimum wage! Take the asprin of government-funded schooling!
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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 7
      Replying to @simpolism

      state isn't the brain. it's a combination of immune system, liver, spleen, deleterious vestigial traits, and viral dna.

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    3. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 7
      Replying to @danlistensto

      Why so?

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 7
      Replying to @simpolism

      state is mainly concerned with keeping the body (the population) secure (immune system), "pure" (liver), and providing a safety net (spleen, red blood cell safety net), but is the product of a messy history including genetic parasitism.

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    5. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 7
      Replying to @danlistensto

      then who or what decides which actions the body that is society performs?

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 7
      Replying to @simpolism

      nobody. the metaphor breaks down if you try too hard to force chordate physiology on it. mycelial network super-organisms is a better model.

      4:37 PM - 7 May 2018
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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 7
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism

          this is a shocking thing and basically intolerable to most people so there is a performance art aspect of government that is meant to sincerely convince people that someone is in control. they aren't though.

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        3. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 7
          Replying to @danlistensto

          you mean there's no governmental cabal making foreign policy decisions? when acting voluntarily/with agency, humans mostly don't choose to modify themselves: they go for other humans or something else in the world

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        4. simpolism‏ @simpolism May 7
          Replying to @simpolism @danlistensto

          not saying your metaphor is wrong, but all metaphors are wrong and I'm trying to point this one in a particular direction :P

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        5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto May 7
          Replying to @simpolism

          have at it then. i think if you insist on central state authority as brain you'll talk yourself into tinfoil hat level conspiratardism though

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        6. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv May 7
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism

          If the state is the brain I feel like it would have to be a narrow subset, like just the prefrontal cortex maybe. It’s more like the extra-weaponized self-concept...? I find the metaphor works better in reverse: a lot of ppl conflate themselves with The Central Govt of the Self

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