A lot of people seem to think you can reduce the amount of conditioning. Can't get rid of it entirely, of course, but it does feel like I just have less.
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I can't help but wonder how much of this is the Jewish diaspora influence on Western Buddhism though. I've never even heard of a Jewish monastery.
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The dharma will be at its peak when the West is good at calling Buddhism on its bullshit, and vice versa. Though the flip-side of Western Buddhism dumping everything it finds too mystical is that it makes you wonder if there are useful parts that we just don't understand yet.
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The student asked "What is the true meaning of Shakyamuni's great realization?" The master said "Gotta call you on that bullshit, friend."
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I feel like the ultimate Zen master move would be intimately training a student for 20-30 years, and then one day saying to them "Now you are ready for the highest truth, and it is this: Everything I've taught you is complete bullshit. I made it all up!"
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Come to think of it that might be closer to reality than a joke.
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nonono, the real Zen approach is to say that on day 1. the student doesn't believe it at first. then 30 years later when they've managed to convince themselves through direct experience the master says "I told you so."
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Followed by a smack over the head.
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