This is true for me as well. Especially when you start to see beliefs and conditioning fucking everywhere, it can get overwhelming. Belief might be somewhat easier to work with, but virtually nothing is independent of conditioning.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @euvieivanova and
You can't fully escape conditioning unless you're unconscious; you can only get better at recognizing it in real time, and loosening its grip. That's not to say you can't shed specific conditions -- but you'll always be replacing it with other conditions.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @euvieivanova and
A lot of people seem to think you can reduce the amount of conditioning. Can't get rid of it entirely, of course, but it does feel like I just have less.
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Replying to @iwelsh @euvieivanova and
Any functional human mind has to be conditioned by something, because nothing is independent of conditions. I agree that when you recognize that conditions are not you, then you can reduce or change them, though a lot of conditioning is biological/evolutionary.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @iwelsh and
Yep, I'm talking about social conditioning specifically. The more I remove it and expose the deeper biological / evolutionary conditioning, the happier I seem to become. Millions of years of wisdom built into that.
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Replying to @euvieivanova @iwelsh and
Agree that suffering decreases when you remove social conditioning, though you also get increasingly more lonely as you realize that everyone around you is fucking crazy.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @euvieivanova and
this is a really big part of the "waking down is hard" thing.
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Replying to @danlistensto @euvieivanova and
Yeah, it's easy to turn it into some kind of superiority complex, but it's not about being better than anyone -- it's about suffering less than most people, and seeing just how terrible people are at addressing their suffering but not being able to do anything about it.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @euvieivanova and
hmmm, wasn't thinking superiority complex though I guess you're right, spiritual pride is a problem for some people. was thinking more that you need to wake down and reintegrate because you still have your mundane life to deal with (unless you retreat to a monastery forever).
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Replying to @danlistensto @Failed_Buddhist and
In a way it's like reprogramming yourself after you de-program yourself. Designing new coats for yourself to wear that fit into society for your intended purposes.
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good metaphor (especially for a techie like me). refactoring is a bit more gentle and doable than a full scale greenfield reprogramming project though.
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