They're mostly dead, tho.
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And you think we won't be? We are on a trajectory to burn out faster than any of them. So in doing what works, we should be learning from patterns in history, not intentionally throwing ourselves off the cliff because all the cool kids are doing it.
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This is pure epistemological arrogance. People in tech tend to believe that they can reach transcendance, while being painfully ignorant that they are just playing out mythological archetypes that manifested in different cultures throughout history.
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It's not so much about transcendence as it is about utterly destroying those mythological archetypes, whether consciously (a better approach, but archetype manipulation is a nascent science still cloaked in mysticism, despite the best efforts of Chaos magicians) or accidentally.
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for the record, I am not convinced archetypes exist as anything other than pattern-matching anomalies in human cognition, so destroying them might be akin to destroying the duck-hare illusion. Having said that I believe that to be a cool project and would like to subscribe.
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your own sense of self is a pattern-matching anomaly in human cognition too though. manipulating cognition anomalies is a decent definition of mysticism imo. also a decent definition of cognitive transhumanism.
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I think what self "is" is an open question (that ties into "what is it even for"), so it may or may not be an anomaly. I am somewhat partial to hypothesis that "self" is nature's weird lame way of implementing an inter-process bus of sorts, but it is way early for strong opinions
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JULIAN JAYNES
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Bicameralism is an especially good crackpot (I like the term, don't mean it derisively) theory. Probably not true but full of interesting nooks and crannies to provoke further thought.
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yeah, same. "wrong in a way that has intriguing implications" is an interesting subgenre.
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see also: the career of Terrence McKenna (though to be fair he was actually right about some important things)
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