Maybe a little bit of the second was included in the first, in some cases. But most of the time, the second just keeps getting cleared out more and more completely forever. It's very easy to imagine you're much more free of your conditioning than you actually are.
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In a way it's like reprogramming yourself after you de-program yourself. Designing new coats for yourself to wear that fit into society for your intended purposes.
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good metaphor (especially for a techie like me). refactoring is a bit more gentle and doable than a full scale greenfield reprogramming project though.
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Oh I didn't get the sense that you were thinking about that, just wanted to clarify. A life-long retreat sounds great, though that seems a bit like escapism to me. Being awake in the world is indeed much harder than being awake in a cave.
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As the saying goes, "if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your family"
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This is the ultimate test.
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No, the ultimate test would be moving back in with them. Also called “the millenial test.”

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Even the Buddha wasn't confident enough in his enlightenment to move back in with him family.
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*his, damn it.
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